blandy Posted November 3, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted November 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: I am seriously starting to think it doesn't matter what they do they'll get voted in again. They are rigging everything they can to ensure they do. I am not sure I will ever see other than a Tory government for the rest of my days now and I'm 47 and planning/hoping to be around a good while longer yet. What a depressing prospect. I’m much more hopeful Mark. It always looks like the edifice will never crumble, but then it does, eventually. Brexit causing major problems, energy prices, taxes up, cost of living up, petrol queues, cronyism, corruption, double standards, covid deaths… Like when Major’s government just fell apart in the 90s, it happens quite quickly, the tipping point. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: I am seriously starting to think it doesn't matter what they do they'll get voted in again. They are rigging everything they can to ensure they do. I am not sure I will ever see other than a Tory government for the rest of my days now and I'm 47 and planning/hoping to be around a good while longer yet. What a depressing prospect. Without wishing to hijack the thread, I’m of similar mind, and it’s why I want out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: In before CON +5 “They’re all as bad as each other so keep voting for the funny cheeky chappy” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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markavfc40 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 36 minutes ago, blandy said: I’m much more hopeful Mark. It always looks like the edifice will never crumble, but then it does, eventually. Brexit causing major problems, energy prices, taxes up, cost of living up, petrol queues, cronyism, corruption, double standards, covid deaths… Like when Major’s government just fell apart in the 90s, it happens quite quickly, the tipping point. I really hope you are right Pete but it feels very different from what happened with past governments. It is like people who voted Tory won't acknowledge that Johnson/The Tories are lying, self serving, dangerous bastards taking the masses for fools as to do so would mean they'd been had in the net, been gullible enough to fall for their obvious bullshit and for many of them to do that would also mean they would have to acknowledge they were had in the net with Brexit. You'd like to think people being hit in the pocket will be a wake up call but backed by much of the media I am sure the Tories can twist it so that is all somebody else's fault, perhaps your out of work neighbour, the nasty EU, covid, Johnny foreigner, Labour or the latest one that seems to wash the Cameron or May Tory governments like they were a completely different party. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Listen to Owen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Well, they managed to get their amendment to suspend his suspension through. He voted for it himself of course, not being much troubled by conflicts of interest obviously: (Is this journalist rebranding Robert Roberts as Bob Roberts, or does that come from the man himself?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 If a Tory MP ended up on trial they’d get the rules changed so they could also be part of the jury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Well, they managed to get their amendment to suspend his suspension through. He voted for it himself of course, not being much troubled by conflicts of interest obviously: (Is this journalist rebranding Robert Roberts as Bob Roberts, or does that come from the man himself?) I'm guessing it's a convenient reference to the '90s political satire of the same name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I'm guessing it's a convenient reference to the '90s political satire of the same name. Maybe I had to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, blandy said: I’m much more hopeful Mark. It always looks like the edifice will never crumble, but then it does, eventually. Brexit causing major problems, energy prices, taxes up, cost of living up, petrol queues, cronyism, corruption, double standards, covid deaths… Like when Major’s government just fell apart in the 90s, it happens quite quickly, the tipping point. Could go either way though IMO. Social Media can often be a bad barometer, but you don’t have to look to hard to see plenty of people who don’t think they’ve been nasty enough. They aren’t mad because they were lied to about Brexit or the corruption or the spunking of public money on their mates, they are mad because Patel isn’t manning a gun boat in the channel and we aren’t bombing France over fishing rights. The tentacles of the Trump-fuelled grifters have spread. I’m worried tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Maybe I had to be there. Actually, I just listened to today's Spectator podcast and client journalist par excellence James Forsyth also called him Bob Roberts. So I guess the terrible sex-pest has decided to Andrew Cole himself. Although Bob Roberts is well worth a watch.. Hell of a cast. Edited November 3, 2021 by ml1dch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 If anyone needed another measure of the man, here is an extract from the Telegraph tomorrow of him doing an extremely grim victory lap with his shirt over his head 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 4, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2021 8 hours ago, wazzap24 said: The tentacles of the Putin-fuelled grifters have spread. I’m worried tbh. FTFY. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 13 hours ago, blandy said: I’m much more hopeful Mark. It always looks like the edifice will never crumble, but then it does, eventually. Brexit causing major problems, energy prices, taxes up, cost of living up, petrol queues, cronyism, corruption, double standards, covid deaths… I'd throw in Scottish independence into that mix - everything the Tories do now only fuels the likelihood - if Scotland go, where does that leave the flag shaggers? For a start they'd have to remove the blue bits of their beloved flag - major trauma ahead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Pretty disgusting. Imagine doing your job independently, making a recommendation based on the facts, then losing your job for it because the Government want to protect their mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 He's not saying she should resign, because he's too cowardly to stick his neck out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Probably time to replace the CPS with something a little more chum-friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Was it not enshrined in the Magna Carta that a freeman should not be imprisoned without the lawful judgment of his peers(onal friends)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) Edit - although presumably as the vote not to punish Paterson took place yesterday under the whip and is now done, he still won't face any further punishment for his corruption. So the whole thing was just to make sure he got off when he otherwise wouldn't have. Edited November 4, 2021 by ml1dch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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