bickster Posted April 25, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 25, 2021 So, in the midst of a bit of pressure on the PM regarding sleaze and lies, who do you send out to bat for the team next? Would it be Liz Truss who only this week managed to rub the Aussies up the wrong way so much they've decided to concentrate their efforts on an EU Trade Deal instead of a UK one. It's only Marr and he's a bit of a clawless tiger these days, she can't possibly mess it up anyway, it won't matter! In relation to the flat refurbishment At no point has anyone admitted that it happened until... Quote Trade secretary Liz Truss was sent out to face broadcasters on Sunday and was unable to deny that her boss had been given a loan for the work by Tory donors. Indie Me thinks Truss has just dumped on Johnson in a way that only she could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, bickster said: So, in the midst of a bit of pressure on the PM regarding sleaze and lies, who do you send out to bat for the team next? Would it be Liz Truss who only this week managed to rub the Aussies up the wrong way so much they've decided to concentrate their efforts on an EU Trade Deal instead of a UK one. It's only Marr and he's a bit of a clawless tiger these days, she can't possibly mess it up anyway, it won't matter! In relation to the flat refurbishment At no point has anyone admitted that it happened until... Indie Me thinks Truss has just dumped on Johnson in a way that only she could. In Liz we Truss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 25, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 25, 2021 She's now described the Johnson v Cummings spat as tittle-tattle on Sky News. If you wanted this to go away, Liz Truss isn't who you'd send out to bat when the bowlers are playing bodyline. Was everyone else doing their hair this morning? It certainly isn't going away any day soon now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 51 minutes ago, bickster said: She's now described the Johnson v Cummings spat as tittle-tattle on Sky News. If you wanted this to go away, Liz Truss isn't who you'd send out to bat when the bowlers are playing bodyline. Was everyone else doing their hair this morning? It certainly isn't going away any day soon now. It will though won’t it, it would take something of nuclear proportions to bring this government down, or even just its mop haired pr**k of a leader. Its been nothing but a series of scandals and allegations for as long as they’ve been in power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 General public: Yeah Boris is a bit cheeky getting other people to pay for stuff or for having a bit on the side. They’re all at it though, he’s no worse than the others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 25, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: It will though won’t it, it would take something of nuclear proportions to bring this government down, or even just its mop haired pr**k of a leader. Its been nothing but a series of scandals and allegations for as long as they’ve been in power. Hmmm, will it bring the government down? No absolutely not. WIll it rumble on for a while yet? Yes absolutely it will. The editors of the papers will get their teeth into this. Labour will keep pushing the buttons too (hopefully). I suspect Cummings won't keep quiet either. Briefing Newspaper Editors himself is grossly stupid and they appear to have taken umbrage from it too because that appears to be one of the motivators behind pushing and pushing this story Its actually making Starmer's decision not to put his name on the letter from the other 6 parties seem a little stupid now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Unusual to see the Mail with an anti Johnson front page. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 25, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 25, 2021 There's definitely been a turning of the papers. I think we've probably reached a point where the media money is seeing him as yesterday's man, with just a little bit too much muck stuck to him to be worth propping up further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 25, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2021 Opinion polling a couple of months back was very obviously pushing Sunak for a leadership bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Silver lining, it makes a change to see him say something and actually follow through on it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Has a classic Gove stabbing of the back written all over it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 26, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Swerbs said: Has a classic Gove stabbing of the back written all over it. Yep, Cummings was always Gove's man not Boris'. The Gove that hasn't been seen for months. The only really stupid thing is that Boris seems to have started the ball rolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 26, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Chindie said: Opinion polling a couple of months back was very obviously pushing Sunak for a leadership bid. How does polling push someone for a leadership bid? Sunak is going to get sunk by the same shit as Johnson. It'll come out that both were absolutely against lockdown and Sunak even voted against all the measures he's put in place re furlough etc. There's also the colour of his skin, huge vote loser in the racist UK that he helped create Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted April 26, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, Genie said: That's a unique personal touch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 26, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 26, 2021 The only question in my mind right now is... Are we witnessing a softening up of Johnson for a later attack by Gove or is it now that Gove launches the attack? It is no coincidence that the major first salvo is fired by The Heil and Rothermere when you consider which publication Gove's missus works for I also expect Sunak to be taken out in the coming days and weeks, it's already widely known he was against the measures he introduced, which has lead to his popularity in the first place. Taking Sunak out of the game will be relatively easy imo Gove will be Prime Minister before the Party Conference, which may be why the attack has started now given the timing of events needed for that to happen. It won't be long before we will have Interim Prime Minister Domonic Raab at the dispatch box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 26, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 26, 2021 And another wild stab in the dark here. It won't be the bodies piled high comment that does for Johnson, thats just an opening salvo. What will do for him? Giving his backing to Man Utd's Woodward for the European Super League and then his subsequent being totally against it when it launched, threatening to legislate against it etc. The population care more and relate more to that stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 The classic Tory lifecycle. Mess everything up. get rid of their leader, new leader campaigns on a 'distance myself from them' ticket and the whole population forgets that it's been Tory after Tory **** everything up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Think people are getting ahead of themselves here. The Mail appeared to turn on Johnson before, last year, over l'affaire Cummings. Johnson then made clear that he 'considered the matter closed' - a message that was meant for papers like the Mail more than it was for the general public - and given the choice between hopping back on the train or an all-out war, the papers backed down. This may well have blown over in 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Think people are getting ahead of themselves here. The Mail appeared to turn on Johnson before, last year, over l'affaire Cummings. Johnson then made clear that he 'considered the matter closed' - a message that was meant for papers like the Mail more than it was for the general public - and given the choice between hopping back on the train or an all-out war, the papers backed down. This may well have blown over in 24 hours. I think even the Mail could struggle to sell the prime minister saying he'd rather the deaths of thousands of people than a lockdown as something we should all be cheering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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