snowychap Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 hours ago, tonyh29 said: Mogg seems to have taken over the role of harmless buffoon Have you missed the kind of shit that he has been coming out with over the past week or so? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, snowychap said: Why are people conflating these two things? This particular group of people might be but it seems much more commonplace. There is a vast amount of difference between an institution or the NUS or whoever having a particular policy of not allowing people with an unfriendly political opinion to speak and a group of people going to protest (which usually involves getting loud and demonstrative and, sometimes, much more) in order to express their opinion about the speaker. Rees-Mogg wasn't, as far I'm aware, there to debate and to have his opinions, claims or outright lies challenged by anyone. He was there to give a sermon and spread his word. Exactly, he wasn't 'no-platformed', he was literally granted a platform. Whatever it is, it's the opposite of 'no-platforming'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted February 6, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Risso said: It would have to be Gove for me. I know he's not well-liked, but he's the brightest of all of them... And the winner of the 2018 Most Fragrant Turd Competition is........ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Risso Posted February 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2018 I don't know what sort of event it was, other than he was invited to speak there. Surely on the whole, it's a good thing that students and young people in general are exposed to as wide a variety of views as possible. By all means protest if that's what floats your vote, but why go in dressed like absolute scumbags? When I was doing my economics and politics degree, I went to all sorts of talks by all sorts of people, some of whom I profoundly disagreed with (eg Tony Benn) but a proper debate with intelligent of people is stimulating and interesting. Trying to shut them down by dressing like clowns and swearing, much less so. I find a lot of Rees-Mogg's views to be utterly contemptible, but he's come out of this smelling of roses, which is the last thing that bunch of idiots had in mind I expect. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Risso said: By all means protest if that's what floats your vote That's very generous of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 6, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 6, 2018 I really really hope Gove is the next Tory leader. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, bickster said: I really really hope Gove is the next Tory leader. Me too. Although I'd be just as happy with Rees-Mogg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, bickster said: I really really hope Gove is the next Tory leader. Tbf they could pick a name out of a hat, they're mostly shit, and all of them are words removed. They haven't got a good (for a Tory - they're all bad for everyone bar the specific few) candidate anywhere. Look at the runners last time. Leadsom nearly **** won, and she's the kind of person you'd have to have a look outside if she told you the sky was blue. May won and she's a wannabe dictator who wouldn't know what being human was if you gave her an encyclopedia solely on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, snowychap said: That's very generous of you. Not you sunshine! No protesting for you, obvs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, bickster said: I really really hope Gove is the next Tory leader. I see him as being far too smart to take this on until after May has made a complete and utter balls of things (precise metric is fluidic, but we ain't here yet). Though, I pity the country as he'd sell his Mom's home out from under her for a profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, villakram said: I see him as being far too smart to take this on until after May has made a complete and utter balls of things (precise metric is fluidic, but we ain't here yet). Though, I pity the country as he'd sell his Mom's home out from under her for a profit. That's basically the perfect answer to the first question on the Tory party application form. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted February 6, 2018 Author Moderator Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Risso said: It would have to be Gove for me. I know he's not well-liked, but he's the brightest of all of them, and is actually doing a very good job in his current role. He's utterly untrustworthy, has terrible judgement and while he does come across as being intelligent and seems to be doing things as environment sec. that you'd not expect from a Tory, it's window dressing, IMO. He won't do anything that would financially inconvenience any rich backers (such as farmers of large farms, Water companies, Grouse Moor owners, Fracking companies etc.). He's lobbed out a few kind of soft gimmes on things that he can look green about (like Cameron's hug a husky stuff, really) and while they're welcome steps and not what you'd expect from a Tory, they're not like opposing Fracking, promoting renewable energy or anything of genuine large impact. He's playing the "being sane" card for his own ends, I reckon. NTAT. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 6, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, villakram said: I see him as being far too smart ... Don't fall into the Gove, he's really clever trap. He's just another self-serving twunt that uses big words to give the impression that he's clever. He's got zero common sense if you believe that he believes the crap he comes out with. Free Schools were his brainwave. Yep, giving government money to people to run schools and they can employ unqualified teachers is basically what they boil down to Its no shock really that free schools fail OFSTED inspections at a much higher rate than normal state schools Over 60 Free Schools have either closed, partially closed or never even opened in the first place (wasting yet more millions of our tax funds and Education Budget) Clever twunt isn't he, he's dumbed down yet another generation. But he uses big words so he must be clever the smarmy arse 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Gove: Describes himself as 'christian and proud of it', also credits his christian faith for how he approached his job as Justice Minister. Whilst Minister for Education, gave the approval for 3 schools that taught creationism and intelligent design. Was behind the plan for Gove's version of the King James Bible to be distributed to every school in England and Wales. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Gove is a monumental bell end. If they learned anything from the election last year it surely has to be that the Tory brand is still toxic and they have to choose their next leader wisely. There are a number of younger, more liberal Tory MPs out there who could be in with an outside chance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Yeah but he upset teachers so he's great hahahah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, StefanAVFC said: Yeah but he upset teachers so he's great hahahah Teaching is easy, teachers don't know what they're doing, they have too much time off, they don't work very hard and they chose to be teachers so shouldn't complain. Etc, etc, choose your flavour of ignorance. In reality, to think it is funny to anger teachers is monumentally stupid, since education is such an important facet of a harmonious society. But yeh, let's piss off the folks that help shape the future generations of this country. Edit: Anyway, I think we've had this particular debate before. Edited February 6, 2018 by PompeyVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said: Teaching is easy, teachers don't know what they're doing, they have too much time off, they don't work very hard and they chose to be teachers so shouldn't complain. Etc, etc, choose your flavour of ignorance. In reality, to think it is funny to anger teachers is monumentally stupid, since education is such an important facet of a harmonious society. But yeh, let's piss off the folks that help shape the future generations of this country. Edit: Anyway, I think we've had this particular debate before. to be fair to VT, there was some in joke / rory delap / baiting going on and we have some master baiters on here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, sharkyvilla said: There are a number of younger, more liberal Tory MPs out there who could be in with an outside chance. Have you seen who is going to be voting for the next leader? If the deranged witterings on Conservative Home are anything to go by, they'll accept nothing less than Rees-Mogg or the ghost of Oswald Mosley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 11 hours ago, Risso said: Because he'd probably have one of his mates semtex my car. What's your address again? Come on, I need to get moving with this. This stuff has a shelf life, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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