Mark Albrighton Posted November 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 24, 2022 Kantar last published a poll towards the end of September, so not as frequent as other polls for whatever reason. For the history buffs among us, Kantar’s previous poll was concluded just under halfway through the Truss premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Such a lot of money. Then you think about how much Dido took for her Excel track and trace. Do remember this when the cuts bite. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 26, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2022 There is the smell of a General Election in the air The following have all recently announced they are standing down at the next election Gary Streeter (SW Devon) - 67 years old, massive majority been in parliament since 1997. Nothing to see here but... Chloe Smith (Norwich North) - She's only 40 and was elected in 2009, majority 4500 and has held a decent number of ministerial / secretarial positions. Still could be a one off WIlliam Wragg (Hazel Grove) - He's only 34 and was only elected for the first time in 2015, majority of 4500 and is currently the chair of a select committee Dehenna Davidson (Bishop Aukland) - Age 29, only elected in 2019, the first ever Tory to hold this Red Wall seat, majority of 8,000. Has only just been awarded her first position (Under-Secretary of punching down) under Truss which she retained under Sunak. In her announcement she says that The time feels right to devote her time to her life outside politics, what???? OK all that could mean nothing but... If that tweet doesn't scream General Election incoming to you then maybe this will... Spoiler Convinced now? Sod knows what they think they have up their sleeve but 4 announcements of leaving office, 3 of which are VERY surprising and those two tweets all in the same week. Something is in the air. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Do they just want to get the inevitable arse kicking out of the way so they can plan for a comeback in 4 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted November 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Genie said: Do they just want to get the inevitable arse kicking out of the way so they can plan for a comeback in 4 years? Want Labour to deal with the mess they have made, they can blame them for the inevitable social welfare cuts and get re-elected in 5 years time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, tinker said: Want Labour to deal with the mess they have made, they can blame them for the inevitable social welfare cuts and get re-elected in 5 years time. The Tories know there needs to be some kind of alliance with Europe to boost the economy and they don’t want to deal with the flack of unBrexiting the country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 26, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2022 21 minutes ago, Genie said: Do they just want to get the inevitable arse kicking out of the way so they can plan for a comeback in 4 years? IF Labour play this right, it'll be a lot longer than 5 years (we aren't the USA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, bickster said: IF Labour play this right, it'll be a lot longer than 5 years (we aren't the USA) I agree, it’s unlikely. Just thinking from the Tory point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted November 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Genie said: I agree, it’s unlikely. Just thinking from the Tory point of view. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 We can't afford to pay nurses more money. Somehow we found the money for all their mates when buying PPE that wasn't worth shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, DCJonah said: We can't afford to pay nurses more money. Somehow we found the money for all their mates when buying PPE that wasn't worth shit. We can also find £7m a day to pay for hotels rather than processing asylum claims 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted November 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 26, 2022 Will be closer than most think when the Rishi train gets to full speed on the tracks, loot loot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 26, 2022 7 hours ago, bickster said: There is the smell of a General Election in the air The following have all recently announced they are standing down at the next election Gary Streeter (SW Devon) - 67 years old, massive majority been in parliament since 1997. Nothing to see here but... Chloe Smith (Norwich North) - She's only 40 and was elected in 2009, majority 4500 and has held a decent number of ministerial / secretarial positions. Still could be a one off WIlliam Wragg (Hazel Grove) - He's only 34 and was only elected for the first time in 2015, majority of 4500 and is currently the chair of a select committee Dehenna Davidson (Bishop Aukland) - Age 29, only elected in 2019, the first ever Tory to hold this Red Wall seat, majority of 8,000. Has only just been awarded her first position (Under-Secretary of punching down) under Truss which she retained under Sunak. In her announcement she says that The time feels right to devote her time to her life outside politics, what???? OK all that could mean nothing but... If that tweet doesn't scream General Election incoming to you then maybe this will... Hide contents Convinced now? Sod knows what they think they have up their sleeve but 4 announcements of leaving office, 3 of which are VERY surprising and those two tweets all in the same week. Something is in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 17 hours ago, bickster said: Sod knows what they think they have up their sleeve but 4 announcements of leaving office, 3 of which are VERY surprising and those two tweets all in the same week. Something is in the air. Although I've heard some people suggest that with the boundary changes it's not uncommon for an MP to stand down in one place with a view to contesting a safer seat somewhere else. Obviously there doesn't seem to be any such thing as a safe Tory seat based on current polls and all the "stepping away from politics" messages would probably make it difficult to rock up in leafy Toryshire straight away without looking very silly. But it's an alternative theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2022 https://news.sky.com/story/conservative-jake-berry-joins-growing-rebellion-trying-to-force-pm-into-u-turn-over-onshore-wind-ban-12756539 Conservative Jake Berry joins growing rebellion trying to force PM into U-turn over onshore wind ban Quote Rishi Sunak looks set for another battle with his own MPs as a growing number of rebels join Boris Johnson and Liz Truss in trying to force him to drop a ban on new onshore wind farms. Former party chairman Sir Jake Berry added his name on Sunday to the list of MPs backing the bid, while Levelling Up Secretary Michael Gove is also understood to want an end to the ba n. Quote Simon Clarke, a cabinet minister under Ms Truss, has tabled an amendment to the Levelling Up and Regeneration Bill demanding the current moratorium on new onshore wind farm developments be lifted. Quote Along with private backers, a rebel source said 30 Tories have got behind Mr Clarke's bid - coming close to eroding Mr Sunak's working majority of 69 votes if other opposition groups join Labour in voting for the ban to be overturned. Sir Jake said Mr Gove's divergent opinion "spells real danger for my government", suggesting it is a "first crack in the wall" of discipline for Mr Sunak. Quote Shadow climate change secretary Ed Miliband said: "Onshore wind is the cheapest, cleanest energy we have. The Tories' ban has kept bills high and damaged our energy security. Rishi Sunak's weakness means he's having to be dragged to scrap it by his backbenches. He should swallow his pride and U-turn now." The rebellion spells yet more trouble for Mr Sunak and the Conservative Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2022 I don't watch I'm a celebrity. How come Hand Cock made the final? He's not sleazed his way to popularity has he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 2 hours ago, sidcow said: https://news.sky.com/story/conservative-jake-berry-joins-growing-rebellion-trying-to-force-pm-into-u-turn-over-onshore-wind-ban-12756539 Conservative Jake Berry joins growing rebellion trying to force PM into U-turn over onshore wind ban Quote a growing number of rebels join Boris Johnson and Liz Truss in trying to force him to drop a ban I'll cut Truss some slack because she was only in what can only charitably be described as "power" for about 14 minutes, but Johnson couldn't give a toss about this for 3 years while he was PM, now the opportunistic clearing in the woods sees a way to keep his name relevant. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 18 hours ago, HKP90 said: I don't watch I'm a celebrity. How come Hand Cock made the final? He's not sleazed his way to popularity has he? More WTF moments for people outside of the UK. The country that Brexited itself into a shitty swamp votes the man responsible for killing thousands of people before getting fired into 3rd place on a reality TV show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted November 29, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 29, 2022 Quote “If you think we don’t need to codify in law that women have a human right to choose to have an abortion, Jacob Rees-Mogg just argued against women who are victims of rape or incest having a right to have one." The latest normal news from Normal Island They're absolutely **** bonkers, this lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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