blandy Posted October 17, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Panto_Villan said: household prices are never going to reach the cap. They are currently set at the cap. The government is currently sending 66 quid a month to account holders. edit: And I believe, also, (though unrelated) that the standing daily charge which has gone up a heck of a lot since March, that the increase is to effectively recover the losses accrued by the Gov't having to bail out Bulb. And also that the Gov't by refusing to allow the Bulb admin to hedge gas prices has cost itself a fortune. They're **** useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, PaulC said: They will be further help beyond that but I expect it will be more targetted They have said more targeted so I am expecting I'll get **** all. I'm glad I upped my direct debit, probably incorrectly, as I should hopefully accumulate a substantial excess in the summer to see us through the following winter. Hopefully by then some sort of permanent solution will have been found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: "The party for parasites and gropers" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phily85 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 46 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: It'd be nice if it was done in tiers, like income tax. As a small business owner, I could end up in deep shit with that rise coming on top of all my other cost increases. Being a Ltd company, we got practically no help during Covid either - only the offer of a long-term loan. "The party of business"? **** rocket polishers. It's your own fault for not being friends with a minister. Could have done quite well out of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, blandy said: They are currently set at the cap. The government is currently sending 66 quid a month to account holders. edit: And I believe, also, (though unrelated) that the standing daily charge which has gone up a heck of a lot since March, that the increase is to effectively recover the losses accrued by the Gov't having to bail out Bulb. And also that the Gov't by refusing to allow the Bulb admin to hedge gas prices has cost itself a fortune. They're **** useless. Apologies, yes. It went up to £2,500 at the start of this month instead of £3,500, didn't it? Looks like what I was reading actually said that the guarantee was expected to become cost free imminently because of the huge decline in wholesale costs. Yeah, you're right about the standing charges going up a lot. But while the costs for bailing out all the energy companies are passed onto the surviving ones that that will factor into the rises, apparently companies just get to choose what standing charge they want to charge people and this sits outside the standard cap. So it varies heavily from provider to provider. Quote Standing charges are a daily fee for gas and electricity customers and are added to your bill regardless of how much energy you use. Ofgem does not set a limit on this part of your bill – it is down to suppliers how they break down unit and standing charge prices below its overall cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2022 58 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: It'd be nice if it was done in tiers, like income tax. As a small business owner, I could end up in deep shit with that rise coming on top of all my other cost increases. Being a Ltd company, we got practically no help during Covid either - only the offer of a long-term loan. "The party of business"? **** rocket polishers. Yeah I lost my business because of the impacts of Covid. No help at all other than to furlough, which meant a choice of a little bit of income while operating, or no income while furloughed. Insurance costs rose during that time by 50%, and there were no payment holidays obtainable for us. Either pay, or be uninsured, and lose backdated insurance/warranty for works undertaken. Those were my options. I'm sure someone somewhere got some help, but it wasn't us. Insurance costs killed us in the end. Now I have......a Boss! (Bleurgh) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Truss apparently sending in Penny to answer UQ from Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, jim said: Truss apparently sending in Penny to answer UQ from Labour. Sounds ominous 1 hour ago, Panto_Villan said: Not sure where you're getting this info from? The current predictions are that the price cap will cost the government nothing this winter because wholesale prices have fallen far enough that household prices are never going to reach the cap. From the chancellor Edited October 17, 2022 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I think the lettuce is going to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: I think the lettuce is going to win. I hope so. Then I hope someone throws it at Gerrard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Election Maps on Twitter are teasing a Redfield & Wilton that is due to come out at 5pm, which to me suggest one (or some combination) of three things - 1) Tories below 20%, 2) Labour above 60%, or 3) Lib Dems surge to second. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted October 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2022 41 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Mickey Fabs will be on the only Tory MP left sitting. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Fun fact - last month saw the announcement of the biggest tax cuts since 1972. And today saw the announcement of the biggest tax increases since 1993. Gotta love that stability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said: Election Maps on Twitter are teasing a Redfield & Wilton that is due to come out at 5pm, which to me suggest one (or some combination) of three things - 1) Tories below 20%, 2) Labour above 60%, or 3) Lib Dems surge to second. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: I did think after my post that "Biggest lead since/bigger lead than 1997" could be what it was referring to. I also think this line in the article may be part of why Election Maps were saying it was so big; Quote After weighting by likelihood to vote, more respondents say they do not know how they would vote (17%) than say they would vote Conservative (16%). Also, Tories Fourth... Edited October 17, 2022 by MessiWillSignForVilla 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Mickey Fabs will be on the only Tory MP left sitting. Hair raising stuff Edited October 17, 2022 by sidcow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2022 'His' 'hair' will stand for some seat in the Home Counties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 So Liz dodges the urgent question because she’s got something super important and super secret that no one can know about. Turns up for the speech by her new chancellor, answers no questions and quickly exits before any can be asked back to the super secret bunker. Any amusing guesses what the super secret and super important “thing” is? It could be like the wizard of oz but she’ll need “all of the above” won’t she? Courage, a brain and a heart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, fightoffyour said: Mickey Fabs will be on the only Tory MP left sitting. Bring back Boris! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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