blandy Posted February 16, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, bickster said: If Labour had a policy, there was certainly no compulsion on their MPs to campaign for that policy Yeah that's my recollection - similar to the baby eaters - the "official" position was "remain" but individuals were free to favour whichever side they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 16, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Although one would imagine that if there were any sort of policy it would be probably be seen as bad form for the leader of the party to not be (at least officially) behind it. Zackly. Corbyn did say, fairly tepidly, that he was campaigning to remain in the EU, but I think most people could see his longstanding antipathy to being a member of the EU meant that his heart wasn't in it. Still, water under the bridge. British water. British bridge, not any of your fancy foreign water, all fizzy and clean, either - no, proper British turd filled water and a crumbling rusty bridge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I’m sure Rees Mogg would point out they were happy British turds. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 16, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, blandy said: but I think most people could see his longstanding antipathy to being a member of the EU meant that his heart wasn't in it. It wasn't just that his heart wasn't in it, it was the places in the back of beyond that he chose to campaign. Campaign in this instance is amble about a run down ghost town centre chatting to people and the famous stupid response to Andrew Marr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, bickster said: It wasn't just that his heart wasn't in it, it was the places in the back of beyond that he chose to campaign. Campaign in this instance is amble about a run down ghost town centre chatting to people and the famous stupid response to Andrew Marr To be fair, it's probably the right answer to that question in a grown-up discussion of the subject. Just not in the context of that campaign of bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 16, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, ml1dch said: To be fair, it's probably the right answer to that question in a grown-up discussion of the subject. Just not in the context of that campaign of bullshit. As I remember the question at the time, it was so easy to actually avoid giving an answer that I could have done it but he chose not to do that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Well, that would make things interesting. Edited February 17, 2023 by ml1dch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Demitri_C Posted February 18, 2023 Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 I don't think labour voters wont vote labour because corbyn wont bw representing them. Most will still vote labour as they absolute detest the tories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I don't think labour voters wont vote labour because corbyn wont bw representing them. Most will still vote labour as they absolute detest the tories Tbh I’ve only ever voted “not Tory”. Until we get proper PR I doubt I’ll ever vote for what I actually want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 18, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: I don't think labour voters wont vote labour because corbyn wont bw representing them. Most will still vote labour as they absolute detest the tories Oh never underestimate the ability of the most left leaning 5-10% of the population to cut their own noses off to spite their face. Principals have always been more important that realpolitik to them. Entrenched ideas run rampant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Keir Starmer on BBC Breakfast today with his 5 pledges for if ever in Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 35 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: Keir Starmer on BBC Breakfast today with his 5 pledges for if ever in Government. Soft as butter that guy, couldn't run a bath never mind the country. We're f****ed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seat68 Posted February 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Soft as butter that guy, couldn't run a bath never mind the country. We're f****ed! Yes, THIS!! The past 12 years have been hell under him. 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Soft as butter that guy, couldn't run a bath never mind the country. We're f****ed! I'm not his biggest fan, but you think he can do any worse than the last 5? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Soft as butter that guy, couldn't run a bath never mind the country. We're f****ed! Yeah, this is the reason we're ****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 I just mean were f***ed what ever way we go to be honest, I'm no Tory fan. Will he do better than the Tories, I guess dried poo don't smell as much, still poo though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 51 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I just mean were f***ed what ever way we go to be honest, I'm no Tory fan. Will he do better than the Tories, I guess dried poo don't smell as much, still poo though. He absolutely will. Gotta take any improvement you can get at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 He's very difficult to understand - speaks like a middle manager - yet the tories are just so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Starmer is a tory, those 5 missions all but confirm it. Also might explain the rise in popularity. Time to accept that the majority of the country are aligned to more traditional tory principles than labour ones. If you want to be in power, be somewhere towards the middle. 1 hour ago, Jareth said: He's very difficult to understand - speaks like a middle manager - yet the tories are just so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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