Wainy316 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 We're not scoring goals so we're bound to be linked with a ton of strikers, even though it's not exactly what we need. The people who make up these rumours don't usually do context. Quite. If, and I do say if, we get anyone this window it won't be a striker in my opinion it will be a wide player and most likely on loan.We could do with replacements for Gabby and Wiemann, if we are adopting this new possesion style football then they are virtually useless. They are good counter attack type players but asking them to make clever runs in and around the box when when we are having possesion is pointless, they are not intelligent enough to play that way and both lack any real technical abilty I agree, the problem as always is money. Wasn't it quoted (from somewhere) last summer that Randy would back Lambert financially in January? Cheap platitudes though aren't they really - he might chuck £10m at us best case scenario. Its hardly the £50m this teams needs to make it even vaguely competitive though is it? I don't think we're £50million away, we're a couple of players short from being a really good side (provided we're set up right), what needs addressing is the breakdown between midfield and attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 We're not scoring goals so we're bound to be linked with a ton of strikers, even though it's not exactly what we need. The people who make up these rumours don't usually do context. Quite. If, and I do say if, we get anyone this window it won't be a striker in my opinion it will be a wide player and most likely on loan.We could do with replacements for Gabby and Wiemann, if we are adopting this new possesion style football then they are virtually useless. They are good counter attack type players but asking them to make clever runs in and around the box when when we are having possesion is pointless, they are not intelligent enough to play that way and both lack any real technical abilty I agree, the problem as always is money. Wasn't it quoted (from somewhere) last summer that Randy would back Lambert financially in January? He is the new Doug Ellis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 We're not scoring goals so we're bound to be linked with a ton of strikers, even though it's not exactly what we need. The people who make up these rumours don't usually do context. Quite. If, and I do say if, we get anyone this window it won't be a striker in my opinion it will be a wide player and most likely on loan. We could do with replacements for Gabby and Wiemann, if we are adopting this new possesion style football then they are virtually useless. They are good counter attack type players but asking them to make clever runs in and around the box when when we are having possesion is pointless, they are not intelligent enough to play that way and both lack any real technical abilty I agree, the problem as always is money. Wasn't it quoted (from somewhere) last summer that Randy would back Lambert financially in January? Cheap platitudes though aren't they really - he might chuck £10m at us best case scenario. Its hardly the £50m this teams needs to make it even vaguely competitive though is it? I don't think we're £50million away, we're a couple of players short from being a really good side (provided we're set up right), what needs addressing is the breakdown between midfield and attack. Trouble is a lot of the players Paul has brought in he has taken a gamble on because largely with the money he had that's what he had to do. Some have worked out some havent. The players we need now to make a difference cant really be gambles they have to work and so that will cost both in terms of fees and wages , not 50M maybe but lets say it's two 9 or 10M players thats 20M. They'll want 3 year contracts I guess as a minimum on around 60K pw so there's another 9M each in basic wages before bonuses and signing on fees so for two qualityish players that we need you are talking 40M starter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Keep delph & vlaar til end of season Sign Sinclair in jan Wait to get cleverly on a free Sell benteke 45m, gabby, weiman & nzogbia should be about 50m to spend In summer go for Townsend, dembele, Ings & Austin Guzan Hutton okore clark cissokho Sanchez westwood Townsend dembele Sinclair Austin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 We're not scoring goals so we're bound to be linked with a ton of strikers, even though it's not exactly what we need. The people who make up these rumours don't usually do context. Quite. If, and I do say if, we get anyone this window it won't be a striker in my opinion it will be a wide player and most likely on loan. We could do with replacements for Gabby and Wiemann, if we are adopting this new possesion style football then they are virtually useless. They are good counter attack type players but asking them to make clever runs in and around the box when when we are having possesion is pointless, they are not intelligent enough to play that way and both lack any real technical abilty I agree, the problem as always is money. Wasn't it quoted (from somewhere) last summer that Randy would back Lambert financially in January? Cheap platitudes though aren't they really - he might chuck £10m at us best case scenario. Its hardly the £50m this teams needs to make it even vaguely competitive though is it? I don't think we're £50million away, we're a couple of players short from being a really good side (provided we're set up right), what needs addressing is the breakdown between midfield and attack. Trouble is a lot of the players Paul has brought in he has taken a gamble on because largely with the money he had that's what he had to do. Some have worked out some havent. The players we need now to make a difference cant really be gambles they have to work and so that will cost both in terms of fees and wages , not 50M maybe but lets say it's two 9 or 10M players thats 20M. They'll want 3 year contracts I guess as a minimum on around 60K pw so there's another 9M each in basic wages before bonuses and signing on fees so for two qualityish players that we need you are talking 40M starter. Yep, spot on this. The wage issue seems to have been forgotten about in the argument around 'net spend'. Not only are we spending less than a lot of teams, we can't offer the wages required to attract real 'quality', even on frees. Unless Lambo gets 'lucky' again as he has with Benteke, Okore and Sanchez, then the next signings HAVE to be of a higher quality and higher quality costs more in terms of fees and wages. With the wages now supposedly under control and Bent, Delph and Vlaar departing then there should be more than enough leeway to add the required players. Over to you Randolph. I can't say I will be holding my breath and the age old 'Jam Tomorrow' will no doubt be trotted out in Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Keep delph & vlaar til end of season Sign Sinclair in jan Wait to get cleverly on a free Sell benteke 45m, gabby, weiman & nzogbia should be about 50m to spend In summer go for Townsend, dembele, Ings & Austin Guzan Hutton okore clark cissokho Sanchez westwood Townsend dembele Sinclair Austin Drugs are just bad.....mmmmkay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 We're not scoring goals so we're bound to be linked with a ton of strikers, even though it's not exactly what we need. The people who make up these rumours don't usually do context. Quite. If, and I do say if, we get anyone this window it won't be a striker in my opinion it will be a wide player and most likely on loan.We could do with replacements for Gabby and Wiemann, if we are adopting this new possesion style football then they are virtually useless. They are good counter attack type players but asking them to make clever runs in and around the box when when we are having possesion is pointless, they are not intelligent enough to play that way and both lack any real technical abilty I agree, the problem as always is money. Wasn't it quoted (from somewhere) last summer that Randy would back Lambert financially in January? Cheap platitudes though aren't they really - he might chuck £10m at us best case scenario. Its hardly the £50m this teams needs to make it even vaguely competitive though is it? I don't think we're £50million away, we're a couple of players short from being a really good side (provided we're set up right), what needs addressing is the breakdown between midfield and attack. Trouble is a lot of the players Paul has brought in he has taken a gamble on because largely with the money he had that's what he had to do. Some have worked out some havent. The players we need now to make a difference cant really be gambles they have to work and so that will cost both in terms of fees and wages , not 50M maybe but lets say it's two 9 or 10M players thats 20M. They'll want 3 year contracts I guess as a minimum on around 60K pw so there's another 9M each in basic wages before bonuses and signing on fees so for two qualityish players that we need you are talking 40M starter. Fortunately you don't need to pay all the wages and bonuses up front... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Keep delph & vlaar til end of season Sign Sinclair in jan Wait to get cleverly on a free Sell benteke 45m, gabby, weiman & nzogbia should be about 50m to spend In summer go for Townsend, dembele, Ings & Austin Guzan Hutton okore clark cissokho Sanchez westwood Townsend dembele Sinclair Austin If we spent £50m on Townsend, Dembele, Ings (who is out of contract in the summer) and Austin I think I would just give up on football altogether. We should be looking at teams like Southampton and trying to bring in more quality/cheap players from abroad whilst continuing to bring through some of our youth players. If Lambert had £50m to spend I would hope that he could unearth a few more Okore's and Benteke's and fewer Sylla's, Bennett's, Luna's, Tonev's etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 No you don't P3te, but haven't we been told before that wages were/are the issue (going off memory, but something was said on this by either Faulkner or Krulak at some point)? All this austerity has been to make the club 'sustainable' but as we don't have any recent figures to go off, we don't know what sustainable actually looks like. If we are indeed running at around break even or a slight profit now, then there should be more than enough room to bring in at least one 'decent player', but I don't believe the money will be made available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Actually If we could ship out Bent, Delph, Vlaar and by some miracle find a home for Given there should be enough to get Falcao in! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 We can work out how much money we should have to spend all we like but if Randy decides that Lambert isn't getting anything then that's that and there's nothing we can do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 6, 2015 Moderator Share Posted January 6, 2015 Obviously the wages and bouses aren't paid up front but it doesn't lessen the financial commitment or cost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) Obviously the wages and bouses aren't paid up front but it doesn't lessen the financial commitment or cost. No it doesn't, but they wouldn't be all coming out of the CFY's budget Edited January 6, 2015 by P3te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 None of these players should get a bonus apart from the defenders and GK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Obviously the wages and bouses aren't paid up front but it doesn't lessen the financial commitment or cost. No it doesn't, but they wouldn't be all coming out of the CFY's budget No they wouldnt but the budget would be dependent upon revenue and existing wage bill and it would also restrict future transfer dealings / budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 According to my FM game, we just need to sell Benteke to Monaco for £35m and we're sweet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1874 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Maybe we could look at getting Albrighton in on loan. He needs a bit of game time and was our most effective wide player last season! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Wasn't it quoted (from somewhere) last summer that Randy would back Lambert financially in January? I think Tom Fox gave us the usual non committal... if the manager identifies a target then the owner is prepared to back him if the conditions are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Lambert should be looking at Croatian striker Andrej Kramaric, Cheslea are interested but supposedly he may choose Leicester, at 9mill its probably out of our budget but would be a good addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbertoAVFC Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Could do a lot, lot worse than Danny Ings or Charlie Austin. People are utterly deluded - the reality is these days they are probably too good for us! Face it, we're not a big club in the eyes of anyone but ourselves. Please stop being so proud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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