ThunderPower_14 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I've been scoffing at Liverpool fans each week showing me the "Premier League table if only goals scored by English players counted" as if it matters at all. The premier league as a league should be aiming to be the best league in the world. There is definitely a coaching issue, but as villa4europe said, there is a problem with the most talented English kids going to a big club and sitting on the bench for them earning megapounds. I'm not really sure what you do about it though. Try telling a 20 year old he should be earning 20,000 pounds a week every game for Swansea or Hull instead of earning triple that to sit on Chelsea's bench. Maybe have a centrally contracted national squad of maybe 30 players who are paid match fees for every premier league game they play, giving them incentive to either move to a club that will play them regularly or go out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I think one of the issues with the national team is that every player has only ever played in the Premiership and most the current England team haven't played in the CL or have little experience in it. Go look at the German/Spain squads, they have players from everywhere and most have vast experience in every department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Too many foreign people here. Send the Dutch back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LondonLax Posted May 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2014 The Championship is full of almost exclusively English players and is of a similar standard to the Belgium League or the Portuguese League or some of the South American leagues. If those countries can produce top sides dispite haveing national leagues as strong as the Championship than England can. The cream will always rise to the top and make it to the Premier League whether they be from Belgium, Portugal, Uraguay or England. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 14, 2014 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 14, 2014 Exactly. The pool of English players isn't smaller, it's just that part of the pool are forced further down the leagues. Meaning to play at the top level you have to be better then before, because the quality is higher. That can only be beneficial to the England players that do play at that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 problem isn't exactly foreign players but their is a lot of average foreign players in the league when an English player is just as good e.g. surely we could have got a better British defender of full back for what we got out of Beye or Cuellar who were definition of average on the flip side the price and salary for British players puts clubs off buying them and leads them to lesser talent from the continent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Yeah I think pricing is the biggest issue. Though part of that isn't necessarily that they're British, it's that they're being bought off a British club. Because of the tv money, it means every club generally will have something to spend over summer, so prices go up. Because teams are then not desperate for money, they don't need to sell their better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 English players that don't feel they are getting a chance in the prem could always move abroad. Why are English players so scared of playing over seas? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 English players that don't feel they are getting a chance in the prem could always move abroad. Why are English players so scared of playing over seas? because they would probably get more money in the championship than in other European leagues. only Mancienne and Barton has really been brave enough to make a move. (don't count Beckham, Bale etc as they are actually well top established players) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 You never really even get other European teams bid for English players from the Prem. Strange that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 didnt bayern munich sign a kid from tranmere a few years back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Yeah Dale Jennings, had trouble with Injury apparently and was sold to Barnsley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXD Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 They come over here, take all of our football jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 You never really even get other European teams bid for English players from the Prem. Strange that. It's because they will never be able to tempt them to cut their Premiership wages to move abroad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 As Gareth says earlier in the thread, it all stems from problems at the grass roots of the game. Let's face it, if the young English players coming through had the technical ability of the Spanish and other top countries then more young English players would make it in the top part of the game. We need to find the right balance between teaching the skills and nurturing the competition. We need to hone the technical side of things without pressurising and taking the enjoyment out of the game first, before then implementing a competitive edge later on. Sometimes parents can be the worst influence shouting instructions from the edge of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The cream will always rise to the top and make it to the Premier League whether they be from Belgium, Portugal, Uraguay or England. Or if they're really good they get to go and play in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 They come over here, take all of our football jobs. THEY TURK OUR DURRRR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 27, 2014 Moderator Share Posted May 27, 2014 The Championship is full of almost exclusively English players and is of a similar standard to the Belgium League or the Portuguese League or some of the South American leagues. If those countries can produce top sides dispite haveing national leagues as strong as the Championship than England can. The cream will always rise to the top and make it to the Premier League whether they be from Belgium, Portugal, Uraguay or England. Only this is absolutely not the case, the Championship is not "almost exclusively English players" nowhere even near to being. In October last year Gareth Southgate was talking about this as an issue for the English game and calling for a cap on the number of foreign players allowed at Championship clubs. The Daily Mail published an article at the time showing the percentages of English players used at each Championship club at that point during that season. Overall 285 English players had been used compared to 250 players from overseas, so just 53.3% were English so that is a very long way away from being 'almost exclusively English' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Did anyone see the worst every england football team on BBC3 last week? I just had to laugh when they were showing footage of Carlton Palmer in various England games...the bloke could barely pass 5 yards to another teammate, Fashanu was another who was hopeless controlling it. English players get a bad press for their technique nowadays but they are lightyears ahead of some of the players who were playing for England in the early 90s, weren't too many foreign players around then were there? Is it too hard to accept they'll be poor players produced in any era? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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