Corcaigh Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) Drop the star altogether! it's small time to incorporate it on the crest. When Villa make it into the CL perhaps they can put a star above the crest then. Champions of Europe is smalltime? Its not like we're putting a star on for winning the intertoto. Is there any other club who've won the EC that have incorporated a star representing the fact into their crest? Nah, you're right... Small time But those stars are for domestic championships won and, most importantly, aren't incorporated into the crest themselves like the star is within the Villa one. Edited April 20, 2014 by Corcaigh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) Drop the star altogether! it's small time to incorporate it on the crest. When Villa make it into the CL perhaps they can put a star above the crest then.Champions of Europe is smalltime? Its not like we're putting a star on for winning the intertoto.Is there any other club who've won the EC that have incorporated a star representing the fact into their crest?(Pictures) Nah, you're right... Small time I knew that more clubs did use the stars, it's just that when I was checking them on Wiki they don't show up. I guess they don't officially have the stars as a part of the badge but include them on the shirt or something? But those stars are for domestic championships won and, most importantly, aren't incorporated into the crest themselves like the star is within the Villa one. Bayern's are for European Championships. N Come to think of it, there are also international teams who have use stars to represent World Cups won too. I agree with you that they should be above the badge rather than within it though. Edited April 20, 2014 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Bayern's are for European Championships. N Come to think of it, there are also international teams who have use stars to represent World Cups won too. I agree with you that they should be above the badge rather than within it though. They aren't. Bundesliga has a system for Stars. 3 Bundesligas: 1 star 5 Bundesligas: 2 Stars 10 Bundesligas: 3 Stars Every next 10 Bundesligas: +1 Star. Bayern are on 24 Bundesliga's I believe. Hence 4 stars. The official UEFA CL Star system is supposedly: 1 Star if you have won 3 Consecutive European Cups or 4+ Overall European Cups. When that system was created it stopped United from donning special 'Champions League' home shirts which donned 1 (and then 2 after their second) stars in the late 90's / early 00's. And Liverpool also at that time wore 4 stars on their CL shirts for their4 trophies. Which also stopped I believe (although can't remember their kit from the last time they were in the CL). I believe only Marseille has a star for the Champions League on their badge for their one win. Not sure how this fits in with the system or how they got around it (if its even a rule or more a guideline?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 There's some good alternatives in here but I've always liked our current one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 The Premier League didn't allow us to have the star above the crest on our current crest, that's why we they had to put it inside the crest itself. Looks a lot better out on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Bayern's are for European Championships. N Come to think of it, there are also international teams who have use stars to represent World Cups won too. I agree with you that they should be above the badge rather than within it though. They aren't. (Cut) Ah ok, I assumed the four stars were for the four European Cup wins. The Premier League didn't allow us to have the star above the crest on our current crest, that's why we they had to put it inside the crest itself. Looks a lot better out on top. I didn't realise this. If that is the case, then perhaps best to ditch the star then. I don't like it within the badge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.I.C.O. Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Having a star sometimes doesn't mean anything anyway. Man City's crest has three stars purely for cosmetic purposes. I vote for a return to the round badge. Its timeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 The Premier League didn't allow us to have the star above the crest on our current crest, that's why we they had to put it inside the crest itself. Looks a lot better out on top. Yep I remember this but **** the premier league. Why can't we just stick a star above it and say it is part of the kit design? I bet they wouldn't moan if it was on the collar or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Seems bizarre we aren't allowed a star for winning a major European trophy but Man City are allowed three so that their badge looks 'more continental' without signifying anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I think we should leave out "Prepared" until we prove we actually are... It's a great motto, but hardly fitting for quite some time now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 We have had this badge for less than 10 years. Too early to change it and although it isn't brilliant, it does the job. I think issues such as having a decent football side are slightly more important than the round/non round badge debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova26 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 None of you work in marketing then if you want to drop the AVFC that is never going to happen. I don't mind the current one but any new one would look modern, be classy and have a nod to the past thus adopting our core values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Meh. I quite like our crest as it is - we've got far more pressing matters to attend to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) We have had this badge for less than 10 years. Too early to change it and although it isn't brilliant, it does the job. I think issues such as having a decent football side are slightly more important than the round/non round badge debate. You are right about more important issues, of course, but this is just for a bit of fun tied in with the whole takeover speculation. I'm loving this, frankly! Edited April 20, 2014 by maqroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 None of you work in marketing then if you want to drop the AVFC that is never going to happen. Yet the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Bayern Munich etc. do have their full names in their badges. Doesn't seem to do them any harm on the marketing front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If the rather underwhelming Randy-designed crest is to go, I say bring back the more horsey-shaped lion from c.1880. The current lion is too lioney. Lioney-shaped lions are commonplace and passé really. The club needs a distinctive-looking lion first and foremost. Fixing the team will follow. If you build it they will come, etc. etc. Off for a walk now, anyone seen my umbrella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 None of you work in marketing then if you want to drop the AVFC that is never going to happen. Say what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Winner winner chicken dinner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1974Centenary Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 My problems with current badge: - Poncey, prancing lion - Colouring (too much blue, not enough claret) - Shape of the shield - Location of the star - 'AVFC' instead of 'Aston Villa F.C.' Its not a poncey prancing lion.Its a lion rampant.The definition of rampant is......fierce: exhibiting ferocious behavior or fierceness of spirit,not poncey at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Heres a page that includes the badges we used in our history and other teams too. I like the one introduced in 56. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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