Stevo985 Posted April 21, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Still think Nike are to blame. Arsenal - got Nike kits... Changed badge Villa - got Nike kits... Changed badge City - got Nike kits... Changed badge Everton - got Nike kits... Changed badge. And in evertons case it was explicitly mentioned that the Nike deal was part of the reason. The new crest was "easier"... Or something.I don't know if its been mentioned, but the premier league don't allow stars on the shirts. That's why we incorporated it into our crest. What about Man City?not sure. But I'm sure when we were first redesigning ours the star got mentioned and it was said that we weren't allowed a star on the shirt for the EC Edited April 21, 2014 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 21, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 21, 2014 I can't see us making a return to the round badge I'm afraid chaps. As far as I'm aware, it was changed for copyright/trademark purposes as it had been in circulation for such a long time and used by so many people (before football clubs protected their brand) so copyrighting it became impossible. It's the same reason why Arsenal and Liverpool changed their crest too, and why the Italian national team stopped having the "Italia - il Tricolore" shield on their kit. I could be wrong, but that's my understanding of the situation. It's not to say we couldn't have A round badge, but it'd have to be significantly different from the old one. I came on to post just this - the question was asked directly to Paul Faulkner at a supporters meeting and he gave the exact answer above. Such a pity as it's a great badge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Chelsea's is pretty similar to the round one so perhaps there would be a way around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 My problems with current badge: - Poncey, prancing lion - Colouring (too much blue, not enough claret) - Shape of the shield - Location of the star - 'AVFC' instead of 'Aston Villa F.C.' Its not a poncey prancing lion.Its a lion rampant.The definition of rampant is......fierce: exhibiting ferocious behavior or fierceness of spirit,not poncey at all. If that's how you view it, then good for you. I don't see any of the aforementioned emboldened in the current lion myself. I much preferred the lion in the old one. None of you work in marketing then if you want to drop the AVFC that is never going to happen. Yet the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Bayern Munich etc. do have their full names in their badges. Doesn't seem to do them any harm on the marketing front. Oh yeah, forgot that they had changed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) I have a vision of the Red Bull logo with "Villa" at the bottom in small lettering. Edited April 21, 2014 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthEastVillan Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Couple of new ones. Trying to stay with the round design but not too similar to the previous one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 **** the lion, lets get a unicorn. Nothing shows uniqueness like a unicorn on a crest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova26 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Anyone want to come up with a non round design give the fact:- It looks dated. We're not allowed one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLord Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If only everyone who likes the round shaped-badge piped up when we had the supporter poll and swung the 2% deficit over the current shield design, maybe we wouldn't be having this debate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted April 21, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 21, 2014 Anyone want to come up with a non round design give the fact:- It looks dated. We're not allowed one. We're not allowed one? But I want one. Like this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Why aren't we allowed one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted April 21, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 21, 2014 Still think Nike are to blame. Arsenal - got Nike kits... Changed badge Villa - got Nike kits... Changed badge City - got Nike kits... Changed badge Everton - got Nike kits... Changed badge. And in evertons case it was explicitly mentioned that the Nike deal was part of the reason. The new crest was "easier"... Or something. All coincidence I'm afraid. City's new badge was several years pre-Nike, Villa's badge was Randy's preference, Arsenal was for copyright reasons and the Everton/Nike thing is a myth too. Why aren't we allowed one? If only someone had explained it in detail just a few posts above yours. That would've been really convenient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Why aren't we allowed one? If only someone had explained it in detail just a few posts above yours. That would've been really convenient. I saw that. It's just that choosing not to do it for copyright issues isn't the same as not being allowed to. I thought Supernova meant it was against the rules or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemk39 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 nike has dumbed down everyones badges to make it cheap for them to produce to give them a bigger profit. I'd go back to the round 80's badge tomorrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted April 21, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 21, 2014 Why aren't we allowed one? If only someone had explained it in detail just a few posts above yours. That would've been really convenient. I saw that. It's just that choosing not to do it for copyright issues isn't the same as not being allowed to. I thought Supernova meant it was against the rules or something. Ah, fair enough. Apologies that my post missed a too, and consequently read like I'm a bell... nike has dumbed down everyones badges to make it cheap for them to produce to give them a bigger profit. I'd go back to the round 80's badge tomorrow Nope. Not true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I've said before, but the problem with the current badge is that it was designed by committee, in a way. They sent out that survey, all the fans answered the questions and it gave a load of things that people wanted included. So they chucked all of those things onto a badge and that was it. It seemed like they just went lion, tick. Star, tick. Shield, tick. AVFC, tick. Done! At no point did anybody stand back and say "does this actually look any good?" It reminds me of Homer's car in the Simpsons. Just because you chuck a load of cool things onto a piece of paper doesn't actually mean it looks good. You still need some sort of artistic license or someone with a designer's brain to pull it all together. And it very much seems like nobody did that with our badge. I actually blame Nike. Right on. There were choices for the club name 1) Aston Villa 2) Aston Villa FC 3) Aston Villa Football Club 4) AVFC and the three choices for the name in full split the vote and as a result AVFC had the highest votes at like 35%. And thus we got AVFC on the badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Couple of new ones. Trying to stay with the round design but not too similar to the previous one. I really like these ones. Color combo is soothing to the eyes. I'd go with the one in the middle but with Aston Villa instead of Prepared. Edited April 21, 2014 by nepal_villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hycus-flange Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) we should return to the round badge, all my scarf's from the 80's would become current again. Edited April 21, 2014 by hycus-flange 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Couple of new ones. Trying to stay with the round design but not too similar to the previous one. Big fan of the middle one, would be tempted to bin off the text altogether though and reposition the lion more centrally. But really like that middle one. Then have 'Aston Villa Prepared' around the outside of the badge itself maybe rather than as part of it (text in white on a claret kit and in claret on a white/blue kit) Edited April 21, 2014 by HalfTimePost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatboyvilla Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 New here and like the idea so knocked one up myself 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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