sir_gary_cahill Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, jjaacckk91 said: This is one of those strange situations where even though it hasn't worked out on loan it could work here. He's a player that I could really see working in a DS style team if he has filled out a bit and became more comfortable with the physical side, and we have a current need at CB, I'd hope Dean will take a look before sending him off on loan again. I think you are correct 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 32 minutes ago, jjaacckk91 said: This is one of those strange situations where even though it hasn't worked out on loan it could work here. He's a player that I could really see working in a DS style team if he has filled out a bit and became more comfortable with the physical side, and we have a current need at CB, I'd hope Dean will take a look before sending him off on loan again. Or it could be a very normal situation - where he flops at every loan move he makes and flops here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Smith has said in his press conference that Suliman won’t play tomorrow, he’s out of contract in the Summer, so that’s probably the end of him sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Smith has said in his press conference that Suliman won’t play tomorrow, he’s out of contract in the Summer, so that’s probably the end of him sadly I thought he said something about not getting clearance for Easah to play? Perhaps I misheard... Is clearance necessary for players returning from a loan outside the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 56 minutes ago, BigJim said: I thought he said something about not getting clearance for Easah to play? Perhaps I misheard... Is clearance necessary for players returning from a loan outside the country? Yes, that’s what he said, I didn’t know it was necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 What’s going on with this guy? Doesn’t appear to play for the youth team much. Another one not going to make it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Must say I find it really weird how we can have youths that are in the England international setup, yet they hardly get a single first team match under their belt. Either we are rubbish at bleeding in young players or the England youth setup is quite dog shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Must say I find it really weird how we can have youths that are in the England international setup, yet they hardly get a single first team match under their belt. Either we are rubbish at bleeding in young players or the England youth setup is quite dog shit. Its just very difficult to judge young players. I remember we had J lloyed, Barry , Standing - Barry was by no measure the best of those 3 at youth level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, hippo said: Its just very difficult to judge young players. I remember we had J lloyed, Barry , Standing - Barry was by no measure the best of those 3 at youth level Yes that was kinda my point. Youth players develop so weirdly and different from each other, but a big thing is exposing them to first team football. Sometimes players who look just bang average can blossom under pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pez1974 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 He's the same age as Tuanzebe - it's fair to say winning a load of youth caps isn't a great barometer of future success. He loans haven't worked out at all, so suspect he'll be gone soon. Hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 8 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Yes that was kinda my point. Youth players develop so weirdly and different from each other, but a big thing is exposing them to first team football. Sometimes players who look just bang average can blossom under pressure. He's been sent on loan at least twice (it might be three or four times, I can't remember) and he's barely featured for any of the teams he went to, so 'exposing him to first team football' is - for once - not an Aston Villa failing. Some players are great at 15/16 and then no good at 18/19 or whatever. This lad may well not have a career in professional football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I don't think caps at any level below U21 are really a great indicator to be honest. I think he needs to drop out of the football league if need be, and work his way back up. He needs to be playing football, at a club that will be pushed to develop him and potentially reap the rewards. Last thing he needs is to sign on at a league two club, and not play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Im surprised that people are surprised. The number of youth players that dont make it far exceeds those that do. Thats not just villa thats how it is, perhaps with the exception of the super rich clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 For me, he’s a very capable and elegant centre back. If he doesn’t make it here, he will somewhere, no doubt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted April 17, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, hippo said: Im surprised that people are surprised. The number of youth players that dont make it far exceeds those that do. Thats not just villa thats how it is, perhaps with the exception of the super rich clubs. I think the surprise stems from the expectations being higher due to him having captained England at multiple age levels and also starting every game of England's Under 19 European Cup win, where he also scored in the final. You expect someone who can do that to be able to get game time even if it is in League Two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I've always said that the problem with Suliman would always be his physical side. I've seen him play a few times and he doesn't look like he's grown physically. You look at a player like Tuanzebe and he looks strong, Suliman looks far too slight to be a centre back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villastine Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Still potential there. Should be offered a new contract 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiemunster Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 From what I can remember of the pre season games, he didn't look out of place in the team. Remember, Bruce had to play quite a few of the youngsters, as it looked like we were going into administration and Bruce would have more than likely had to have a fire sale of first team players. If we hadn't got new owners, I reckon he'd have been in the first team squad along with De Laet, but what do I know eh?. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 On 17/04/2019 at 17:29, sir_gary_cahill said: For me, he’s a very capable and elegant centre back. If he doesn’t make it here, he will somewhere, no doubt For you, all 3,000 players that never made it at Villa are world class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: For you, all 3,000 players that never made it at Villa are world class. only 3000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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