JoeParker91 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 It wasn't aimed directly at you but it seems like it has become a running joke to rate Holtby. As i've said before, I think Cleverley would be an improvement on our squad and I'm not really against the deal, but I'd rather strengthen in a more attacking area. Holtby is a good player, not world class which is why he is a plausible option for us, I'd say his reputation isn't far from Cleverley's. I think criticisms of his time at Fulham are unfair, they played him quite often out wide which isn't his best position. He didn't excel at Spurs but he certainly had some excellent performances, especially against us. I think he would be a more exciting signing, he would add some much needed flair and creativity to our team. Again, I still think Cleverley could do well and I really don't understand the mindless attacks on him either, but Holtby would be addressing a more pressing problem that we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Spurs just signed ANOTHER midfielder. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28992064 Well he's got a medical which is pretty promising. Surely they're gunna offload soon. It is ridiculous how many midfielders they have.... Sandro Paulinho Dembele Townsend Lennon Chadli Capoue Lamela Eriksen Holtby Bentaleb In fairness Pochettino has rotated quite well pretty early on and the likes of Chadli and Capoue who were previously frozen out have started games but I can't see him keeping everyone happy so some will have to leave. Pretty much everyone from that list would improve us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Spurs just signed ANOTHER midfielder. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28992064 Well he's got a medical which is pretty promising. Surely they're gunna offload soon. It is ridiculous how many midfielders they have.... Sandro Paulinho Dembele Townsend Lennon Chadli Capoue Lamela Eriksen Holtby Bentaleb In fairness Pochettino has rotated quite well pretty early on and the likes of Chadli and Capoue who were previously frozen out have started games but I can't see him keeping everyone happy so some will have to leave. Pretty much everyone from that list would improve us. Shame we won't sign any of em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtysanchez Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Spurs just signed ANOTHER midfielder. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28992064 Well he's got a medical which is pretty promising. Surely they're gunna offload soon. It is ridiculous how many midfielders they have.... Sandro Paulinho Dembele Townsend Lennon Chadli Capoue Lamela Eriksen Holtby Bentaleb In fairness Pochettino has rotated quite well pretty early on and the likes of Chadli and Capoue who were previously frozen out have started games but I can't see him keeping everyone happy so some will have to leave. Pretty much everyone from that list would improve us. I would take any of them over Cleverley that's for sure, embarrassment of riches at the lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) To play Devil's Advocate on Deeney, I don't think it matters that he's a nose. If we'd kept him while he was with us at youth level, and played for the first team, would we care? I know I wouldn't. If anything I would say it would make him more determined to do well, as he'd probably have a section of boo boys on his back, straight away. If Jamie Carragher can play for Liverpool, why can't Deeney play for Villa? At the end of the day, he's a PROFESSIONAL footballer. Now back in the real world, there is absolutely no way in the world we'll spend anywhere near what it would const to bring him in, so you might as well forget about this one straight off.He is, according to people who know him, as anti villa as "they" get. He'd lose the respect of all of his friends and with Troy Deeney that is more important than his career. Not every footballer is as professional as you'd like to think. If we were his only option or we were offering him champions league football then maybe. But we're not and we can't. Either way, he's too expensive and not good enough. And he hates the club, which is never a good start!Again playing Devil's Advocate, could that also be to do with the fact we release him as a kid? I've heard stories the Joleon Lescott lost his love for Villa, because of the way his brother was treated, while with the club. Don't know how true that is, but I can imagine it might have an impact.It's to do with being from Chelmsley Wood. It's different when you're a kid, playing for any high level youth team is an achievement. In his case he wasn't released because of lack of talent either.I'm from Chelmsley Wood, what's your point? I know his family (met him a few times as well) and some of the generalisations posted in relation to Troy and Chelmsley Wood in general is silly.Chelmsley Wood is a shit hole full of noses. I'm from Acocks Green, a shit hole full of noses. What's YOUR point?Bravo on your generalisation and stereotyping of people from Chelmsley Wood, where I was born and bred and have done good from. And actually, its pretty mixed Villa and blues amd I know of a few more Villa supporters from Chelmsley in this very forum, so shtum sonshine! But yes it has a reputation as a shithole, but its our shithole! Haha Acocks Green has its share of noses and shithole areas. In all seriousness though, Deeney pops in the Marston tavern at times and has said he'd never join Villa. Edited August 29, 2014 by stewiek2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Spurs just signed ANOTHER midfielder. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28992064 Well he's got a medical which is pretty promising. Surely they're gunna offload soon. It is ridiculous how many midfielders they have.... Sandro Paulinho Dembele Townsend Lennon Chadli Capoue Lamela Eriksen Holtby Bentaleb In fairness Pochettino has rotated quite well pretty early on and the likes of Chadli and Capoue who were previously frozen out have started games but I can't see him keeping everyone happy so some will have to leave. Pretty much everyone from that list would improve us. I would take any of them over Cleverley that's for sure, embarrassment of riches at the lane. Get your cheque book out then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtysanchez Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Rodders I would appreciate if you didn't follow me around the forum, it's a bit weird, thanks in advance xxxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) Spurs just signed ANOTHER midfielder. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28992064 Well he's got a medical which is pretty promising. Surely they're gunna offload soon. It is ridiculous how many midfielders they have.... Sandro Paulinho Dembele Townsend Lennon Chadli Capoue Lamela Eriksen Holtby Bentaleb In fairness Pochettino has rotated quite well pretty early on and the likes of Chadli and Capoue who were previously frozen out have started games but I can't see him keeping everyone happy so some will have to leave. Pretty much everyone from that list would improve us. I would take any of them over Cleverley that's for sure, embarrassment of riches at the lane. Get your cheque book out then. Don't get your point? I'd imagine at least a couple of those would be available for the £8m Cleverly is being touted at. Edited August 29, 2014 by penguin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I'd imagine most of them are on wages we can't match, unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) i would like Dele Alli from MK Dons as he would be considerably cheaper and i believe is more talented, can score goals and can play in an advanced midfield role or out wideMore talented than who? Song? Not sure about song but he's got potential to build a very good reputation in the premiership. He's a very young lad who's already being looked at by top sides in the premiership but he's obviously not going to get games there. If you know any MK Dons fans ask them what their opinion is of him because I've only ever heard good things. Even if he didn't come in as a starter he'd improve the squad and would be an exciting talent to bring onhttp://m.miltonkeynes.co.uk/sport/mk-dons/robbo-expects-bids-for-dele-alli-1-6266446 Edited August 30, 2014 by skarroki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeroGabe Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Can we please go for maxime Lestienne? IMO that would be a great signing and if we have the money for cleverly I think he would have the money for him. He is the tricky winger/ attacking mid that we need. He reminds me of coutinho and I think he would be a great asset for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suttonpaul Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 All that list shows is spurs don't know how to make the step forward all good players some very good but they need to thin it down and buy one or two top class players. Think we won't see movement till Monday myself I'm just hoping vlaar is still here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Can we please go for maxime Lestienne? IMO that would be a great signing and if we have the money for cleverly I think he would have the money for him. He is the tricky winger/ attacking mid that we need. He reminds me of coutinho and I think he would be a great asset for us. I thought he'd signed for a middle eastern club this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Spurs just signed ANOTHER midfielder. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28992064 Well he's got a medical which is pretty promising. Surely they're gunna offload soon. It is ridiculous how many midfielders they have.... Sandro Paulinho Dembele Townsend Lennon Chadli Capoue Lamela Eriksen Holtby Bentaleb In fairness Pochettino has rotated quite well pretty early on and the likes of Chadli and Capoue who were previously frozen out have started games but I can't see him keeping everyone happy so some will have to leave. Pretty much everyone from that list would improve us. I would take any of them over Cleverley that's for sure, embarrassment of riches at the lane. Get your cheque book out then. Don't get your point? I'd imagine at least a couple of those would be available for the £8m Cleverly is being touted at. I would imagine you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pembers Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Can we please go for maxime Lestienne? IMO that would be a great signing and if we have the money for cleverly I think he would have the money for him. He is the tricky winger/ attacking mid that we need. He reminds me of coutinho and I think he would be a great asset for us. I thought he'd signed for a middle eastern club this summer. He signed for a Qatari club and is going on loan to Genoa supposedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik986 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Whats with the Holtby love? A man who has done less in the Premier League than the 'awful' Cleverley. Cleverley and a wide forward on loan for me please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfcwills10 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Lassana Diarra going to QPR on a free, i've always rated him. Still only 29! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Whats with the Holtby love? A man who has done less in the Premier League than the 'awful' Cleverley. Cleverley and a wide forward on loan for me please. I agree, Holtby hasn't done much. It still doesn't make Cleverley value for money. He's still 'shit' (not my comment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Id be absolutely delighted with with Cleverly, Holtby & Sinclair. Guidetti is also available from Man City. If we were able to get those 4 in we would have had an amazing transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCRAMTIN Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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