Ulver Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Wigan or Blues didn't lose their premier league status because of 'cup runs' They lost it because over the course of a full season neither were good enough to stay up Villa should be **** ashamed of Lambert's bullshit, it might explain going out of both cups to minnows last season too mind. The **** clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Not at all surprised as I could not believe that level of information was leaking out unless it had official sanction. I also would not be surprised of this did not result in disciplinary action by the club and possibly the sack as it seems clear now that there was no official sanction. Just remember the club fired their historian (can't remember his name) over what he said on a forum and it ended up in a messy case which the club lost and is now bizarrely a case quoted in applying a 'social media policy'. My guess would be they are shit hot on it now with a much more comprehensive policy. Didn't know that bit about the dismissal of the historian (was he more an archivist in fact?) becoming a case study on academic courses. At least we've achieved something over the past 5 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Wigan or Blues didn't lose their premier league status because of 'cup runs' They lost it because over the course of a full season neither were good enough to stay up Villa should be **** ashamed of Lambert's bullshit, it might explain going out of both cups to minnows last season too mind. The **** clown Lambert's bullshit? Have you even read the article or listened to the interview? Unsurprising kneejerk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Designer1 Posted January 3, 2014 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2014 If HH is a proven ITK I apoligise. However, I have a right to be cynical. What prove is there that he is a proven in the know?! Im calling bullshit. Hope im proven wrong...I wont be. This confirms what ive always believed....hairy hands is a legitimate ITK. Keep it up HH ignore the doubters. Brilliant. 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Lambert's bullshit? Have you even read the article or listened to the interview? Unsurprising kneejerk. Yes I have, and i still think he's a tool. And if we field a purposefully weak side tomorrow (and i'm not talking about Vlaar who's carrying a knock obviously) then i'd fire his useless arse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 It's been blown out of proportion. I'm pretty sure Lambert doesn't want us to lose tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) Lambert's bullshit? Have you even read the article or listened to the interview? Unsurprising kneejerk. Yes I have, and i still think he's a tool. And if we field a purposefully weak side tomorrow (and i'm not talking about Vlaar who's carrying a knock obviously) then i'd fire his useless arse So if we do what every other premier league team will do and play the kids/reserves, you think Lambert should get sacked? Edited January 3, 2014 by ciggiesnbeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Wigan or Blues didn't lose their premier league status because of 'cup runs' They lost it because over the course of a full season neither were good enough to stay up Villa should be **** ashamed of Lambert's bullshit, it might explain going out of both cups to minnows last season too mind. The **** clown That's a little bit narrow minded no? Is it not possible that the extra fixtures, particularly in Wigan's case (Blues cup run was over early enough) may have added to the fatigue of an already stretched small squad? I remember Neville talking about how no matter what the players may say, playing at Wembley, the occasion itself, is a draining experience. That Wigan went on to be smashed in their next league game is relevant to the debate. It's an extra what, 6 games? That's without replays. I don't buy the argument that that doesn't have an adverse effect on performance, especially when the players involved are so plumb average to begin with. Every little counts. I'm sad about it, but he has a point. Even if you don't agree there is merit in his comments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) Personally, I couldn't care less whether Lambert takes the cup seriously/prioritises the league/whatever. That's his prerogative. If he plays a full team or the reserves tomorrow that's up to him. What I do not want to see is a piss poor performance at home against a league one team. We should be winning a game like this, and resting players is no excuse for a loss. Edited January 3, 2014 by Morley_crosses_to_Withe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted January 3, 2014 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2014 That'd be my take MCTW. There are plenty of players you could put out in a 'weakened' Villa side that should be able to handle a poor League One side. 'Should' being the operative word there of course. Even players who've had rests recently like Clark, Sylla, KEA. It's not like this is a midweek cup game either, where you get 3 days rest. They've a whole week after this. I don't expect our full team on the pitch. I don't expect to see a full team from ANY of the Premier League sides. But I would hope that we can go through regardless. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yea i've been listening to radio 1 all day at work and they've been finishing newsbeat with a sports section saying Lambert thinks most clubs could do without the FA cup, as staying in the league is important Radio 1 then later in the day goes and extracts responses from Tim Sherwood (Spurs) and José who are saying we take the FA cup seriously etc... No.1 they're not playing minnows. and No.2 they're two clubs that have absolutely no concerns about whether they're going to be staying in the premier league this season. **** stupid radio 1.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 FA Cup matches aren't EXTRA games (apart from any potential replays) they are part of the football calendar not added in midweek causing fixture congestion. It's a truly dire excuse when you can't play say 6 maximum extra matches on top of the 38 in the league when you have the same size squad as every other side in the league (25 plus kids) What's the point in bothering entering anything ? There's no point trying to get back into Europe obviously. Who'd want the burden of those ENDLESS extra matches ?. Not Lambert that's for sure. To sum up, if what we've witnessed thus far is him only concentrating on the league ... then god help us. Prepared my arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 No.1 they're not playing minnows Damn, good point. That helped us greatly last year against Bradford and Millwall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I think I must be alone in this - but to me the FA cup is much more watchable - than the champions league, with its endless 0-1, 0,0, etc......[Flame suit on]* *Is a flame still a usable word..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 FA Cup matches aren't EXTRA games (apart from any potential replays) they are part of the football calendar not added in midweek causing fixture congestion. It's a truly dire excuse when you can't play say 6 maximum extra matches on top of the 38 in the league when you have the same size squad as every other side in the league (25 plus kids) What's the point in bothering entering anything ? There's no point trying to get back into Europe obviously. Who'd want the burden of those ENDLESS extra matches ?. Not Lambert that's for sure. To sum up, if what we've witnessed thus far is him only concentrating on the league ... then god help us. Prepared my arse. Technically any round after the 3rd is extra for us. Not that I'm advocating us throwing the cup, but an extra 6 games can definitely play a part in affecting the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I have to admit, the cup has lost a lot of its magic for me. The cup winners cup was always the easiest to win due to no other European country taking the cup as seriously as England. We've now followed suit. We've since entered into an era where money is behind everything. A few years ago, the holders didn't even bother defending the trophy, instaed opting to go to South America to play in a more lucrative competition. Teams invariably field weaker sides in the earlier rounds & despite what some have said on here, a long cup run will catch up with you in the league as the season draws to a close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno_2004 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Not at all surprised as I could not believe that level of information was leaking out unless it had official sanction. I also would not be surprised of this did not result in disciplinary action by the club and possibly the sack as it seems clear now that there was no official sanction. Just remember the club fired their historian (can't remember his name) over what he said on a forum and it ended up in a messy case which the club lost and is now bizarrely a case quoted in applying a 'social media policy'. My guess would be they are shit hot on it now with a much more comprehensive policy.Rather unsurprisingly the courts found AVFC at fault for that sorry affair. Villa fans rounding on others and one losing his job, not a worse sight have I seen on a forum that. Anyway, shame HH has gone but it couldn't last forever. Explain this historian business to me?see your messages mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Lambert's bullshit? Have you even read the article or listened to the interview? Unsurprising kneejerk. Yes I have, and i still think he's a tool. And if we field a purposefully weak side tomorrow (and i'm not talking about Vlaar who's carrying a knock obviously) then i'd fire his useless arse Hairy Hands is this you after being found out!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Thankfully Ulver isn't in charge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 If HH is a proven ITK I apoligise. However, I have a right to be cynical. What prove is there that he is a proven in the know?! Im calling bullshit. Hope im proven wrong...I wont be. This confirms what ive always believed....hairy hands is a legitimate ITK. Keep it up HH ignore the doubters. Brilliant. Haha great find 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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