StefanAVFC Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Long is good at harrying defenders and tackling defenders and midfielder. He closes them down fast so they don't get a chance to play the ball around and get comfortable. Not all strikers can do that. Darren Bent is the classic example of a striker who doesn't do this. Forwards like that are used if your team is playing the High Press tactic. So while Southampton this year have a new manager the signing of Long suggests to me that they will play pretty much the same way as they did under Pochettino. 12 million good though? He's going to have to score a lot of tackle goals to justify that price tag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 nah thats way to much but southampton were always going to pay over the odds because everyone knows how much money has come into the club through transfers. hes a 4 to 6 million player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I always rated Tadic in Holland and mentioned him transfer thread a few times in past!! was close to joining us in January if rumours was true! Oozes class and wonderful assist today for Clyne!! For £10.9mil they have a bargain who is better than Lallana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Clyne looks to have bulked up over the summer. Good player, if he gets a bit more consistent could be pushing for the England spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 18, 2014 Moderator Share Posted August 18, 2014 I always rated Tadic in Holland and mentioned him transfer thread a few times in past!! was close to joining us in January if rumours was true! They weren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I think Long is a good player. Better than all our strikers bar Benteke. If they'd just spend £12m on Hernandez from Utd I don't think there would be much of a debate, but Long is better than him as well. Football is full of overpriced players... but if everyone is overpriced, does that mean no one is? At what is Long better at than say Kozak, for example? It's certainly not scoring goals. He's a shit Emile Heskey. Nearly everything. Touch, pace, work-rate, movement, finishing, shooting, build up play. I'd probably give Kozak heading. Long isn't amazing, but he's a good Premier League player. The general outrage over the £12m fee struck me as a bit strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 18, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) EDIT Edited August 18, 2014 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) I think Long is a good player. Better than all our strikers bar Benteke. If they'd just spend £12m on Hernandez from Utd I don't think there would be much of a debate, but Long is better than him as well. Football is full of overpriced players... but if everyone is overpriced, does that mean no one is? At what is Long better at than say Kozak, for example? It's certainly not scoring goals. He's a shit Emile Heskey. Nearly everything. Touch, pace, work-rate, movement, finishing, shooting, build up play. I'd probably give Kozak heading. Long isn't amazing, but he's a good Premier League player. The general outrage over the £12m fee struck me as a bit strong. You forgot tackle goals.... Edited August 18, 2014 by AVFCforever1991 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Touch, pace, work-rate, movement, finishing, shooting, build up play. I'd probably give Kozak heading. It's a wonder then that for all his superior abilities he's never averaged better than a goal every 3 games (269 mins) in the PL while Kozak came in to a side in disarray and averaged a goal every 196 mins. Long's scored 3 in his last 3 against us but against everyone else his finishing has been mediocre at best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Surprised not to see the mention of Long's miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 18, 2014 Moderator Share Posted August 18, 2014 Surprised not to see the mention of Long's miss. Why pick on that? Didn't you see his harrying of defenders? Money well spent I would say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Surprised not to see the mention of Long's miss. That was the only reason Kozak was adjudged to have superior heading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Surprised not to see the mention of Long's miss. Why pick on that? Didn't you see his harrying of defenders? Money well spent I would say. He ran around so much it made me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Fantastic miss from Long: https://t.co/AP1cmFPO1U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Fantastic miss from Long: https://t.co/AP1cmFPO1U Steve, you are such a fool. The way he moved there, WOW! What a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Fantastic miss from Long: https://t.co/AP1cmFPO1U Steve, you are such a fool. The way he moved there, WOW! What a player. To be fair to Long he did harry the defender there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Fantastic miss from Long: https://t.co/AP1cmFPO1U Steve, you are such a fool. The way he moved there, WOW! What a player. To be fair to Long he did harry the defender there. Worth all the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Apparently that miss was all to do with Johnson jumping up and putting him off / restricting his sight of goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted August 18, 2014 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2014 Fantastic miss from Long: https://t.co/AP1cmFPO1U Steve, you are such a fool. The way he moved there, WOW! What a player. To be fair to Long he did harry the defender there. Oh this is so short sighted... He missed intentionally so the keeper so he would be able to keep the defenders under pressure rather than score resulting in centre wig would have seen them enter their half. Everyone knows strikers are there to stop defenders getting in their half of the pitch. Seriously sometimes the lack of understanding on here of the game makes me sad. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 18, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted August 18, 2014 Fantastic miss from Long: https://t.co/AP1cmFPO1U Steve, you are such a fool. The way he moved there, WOW! What a player.if that header had hit the post and gone to another striker to tap in then it would have been a superb assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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