imavillan Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, villa4europe said: They're better than Burnley and Norwich and Watford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, imavillan said: and Watford Haven't seen enough of them to be honest bar their game vs us where they looked like they'd have enough on the counter to be ok, obviously results say otherwise Not sure if it's a case of every other team scout inside vicarage Road on the opening day sussed them out instantly and we didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Yeah Newcastle will stay up, probably comfortably in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 30, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 30, 2021 They're definitely going to survive. They look better now than they've looked all season. Burnley and Watford aren't going to suddenly improve massively and no one else is going to sign probably 4 or 5 players in January who ordinarily wouldn't look twice at a team in or near the relegation zone. If they were cast adrift it would be different but they are pretty level pegging with the others unless you believe teams are going to suddenly win 2 or so games in hand when they've looked miles off doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 hours ago, villalad21 said: I don't think goal difference will be a relegation decider. It very rarely is. It will be a big factor - Newcastle have one clean sheet between their two main keepers. Who's going to score with Wilson out? They will continue to leak goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, The_Steve said: It will be a big factor - Newcastle have one clean sheet between their two main keepers. Who's going to score with Wilson out? They will continue to leak goals. How often do goal difference end up being a relegation decider? I don't have the numbers on this but I would guess it's not often. Edited December 31, 2021 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, villalad21 said: How often do goal difference end up being a relegation decider? I don't have the numbers on this but I would guess it's not often. It's not that goal difference ends up being the deciding factor between teams on equal points, but that a team that gets a clean sheet is guaranteed at least 1 point, and every point counts at the bottom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: It's not that goal difference ends up being the deciding factor between teams on equal points, but that a team that gets a clean sheet is guaranteed at least 1 point, and every point counts at the bottom. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 22 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: It's not that goal difference ends up being the deciding factor between teams on equal points, but that a team that gets a clean sheet is guaranteed at least 1 point, and every point counts at the bottom. 1 point are generally useless. It's the wins that will save you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: 1 point are generally useless. It's the wins that will save you. Well, they're not 'useless', they're literally one point. But it's still the case that you're more likely to score 3 points if you keep a clean sheet than if you don't. There's a reason why all the so-called 'relegation specialists' come in and immediately focus on making teams harder to beat by tightening up defences. It's not random. Howe represents the opposite approach; it's possible it will work, but it's a riskier approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GarethRDR Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, villalad21 said: 1 point are generally useless. It's the wins that will save you. I mean, we literally stayed up by a point last year. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Villaphan04 said: Why? The premier league have completely **** up with these rules, only covid tests should be relevant. Them and Leeds, disgusting behaviour. Edited December 31, 2021 by a m ole 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Sunday’s game now cancelled. I wonder if a little game playing is going on? Injuries can clear up and some new signings incoming next week could really boost their chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 54 minutes ago, a m ole said: Why? The premier league have completely **** up with these rules, only covid tests should be relevant. Them and Leeds, disgusting behaviour. The whole thing is farcical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Yep, quite clearly played the system to give themselves a better chance of staying up. Can't blame them really, I would want us to do it if we were in the same position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 41 minutes ago, picicata said: Yep, quite clearly played the system to give themselves a better chance of staying up. Can't blame them really, I would want us to do it if we were in the same position We all would. Silly getting up in arms when someone else does it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Yeah I'm not pissed off at Newcastle I'm pissed off at the PL Again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Yeah I'm not pissed off at Newcastle I'm pissed off at the PL Again These injury lists are pretty unprecedented across the league. What’s the point in forcing teams to play with 13 fit players and a bunch of kids? We should have stopped the league and given everyone a chance to recover their squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, LondonLax said: These injury lists are pretty unprecedented across the league. What’s the point in forcing teams to play with 13 fit players and a bunch of kids? We should have stopped the league and given everyone a chance to recover their squads. Don't disagree The PL should have stuck or twisted though rather than this in between they have done (because of the lucrative Xmas TV money) Either have a break or play the games, this nonsense where no one knows what's going on, some teams have a bit of corona other teams have a crisis, games being called off a few hours before KO etc it's been really badly handled And seeing as we had corona last season it's inexcusable IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 It looks pretty clear that they will get some experienced defenders this window, and that should give them a platform to go win games - they just need to turn some of those draws into wins and they are safe. But they will need to replace Wilson too. The only way they stay up is if all their buys hit the ground running - and clubs near them screw up. It's possible, but difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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