Chindie Posted November 11, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted November 11, 2016 Worth bearing in mind that as interesting as the political compass is its famously genuinely hard to get a realistically right wing result on it unless you give absurdly right wing answers. I've only ever seen one that was allegedly genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 16 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: At the moment the lunatic fringe seems to be in control. He does have a bonkers haircut I'll give you that . I'll try next time I'm in the barbers . Short back and sides with a lunatic fringe . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 True. I'm not sure I'd agree with where it put me. I don't find the quiz itself that useful, but I do think that the two axis are a better way of discussing political position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 You have to wonder what he actually asks for at the barbers. I'd definitely just shave it all off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maqroll Posted November 11, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2016 8 hours ago, Jarpie said: Time to drop some truthbombs. For Hillary supporters (or anti-Trump), are you really surprised that demonizing half of the voters and their candidate as racist, misogynistic and all other buzzwords which are now "in" didn't work? Especially when many of you come across as smug and self-important. People who are struggling to make ends meet, and who's cities/communities have been going worse might not really care about your buzzwords, which you sling from your ivory towers. That's how people sees you, and for a good reason. Gee, I wonder if attacking people without college-degrees as being dumb and with the above-mentioned buzzwords might cause backlash...especially if your elitist candidate comes across as smug, entitled, self-centered, arrogant and has been mired in scandals for three decades now...also don't be surprised if they decide to vote for the other guy instead just for the spite of it. Also for those who might be whining about "MUH POPULISM!", ALL politics is populism, Hillary tried to pander to the blacks, latinos and women with the populism they thought would work for them, but exit polls shows that it didn't work. 54% of the white women voters didn't vote for Hillary and that should tell you something. IIRC more latinos voted for Trump than for Romney four years ago, same with asians and blacks. I'm a non-college educated white American man, and I supported Sanders, whose platform sought to address the needs of the working and middle classes. I despise Clinton, but I voted for her because Trump is unstable, and many positive accomplishments are now under threat, most importantly the Paris Accord. Being working class and white is no excuse for not informing yourself on policy. Trump voters fell for bravado and rhetoric, and it's a sad state of affairs. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, Davkaus said: You have to wonder what he actually asks for at the barbers. I'd definitely just shave it all off. I read an article by one of the stylists on the Apprentice. Apparently he'd turn up to set with his hair already done and refuse to allow anyone to touch it. She was under the impression that his family cut it for him because of how poorly it was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 11 minutes ago, Chindie said: Worth bearing in mind that as interesting as the political compass is its famously genuinely hard to get a realistically right wing result on it unless you give absurdly right wing answers. I've only ever seen one that was allegedly genuine. Agreed but as a rough bench mark I think it's reasonably useful for someone trying to find where they sit on the political map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Thought this was a good article. http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/right-now-is-the-best-time-in-history-to-be-alive?utm_source=vicefbuk&utm_campaign=global I've quoted some pertinent bits (IMO) Quote Norberg's premise is that by any measure of human development – life expectancy, infant mortality, poverty, literacy, freedom, exposure to violence and disease, etc – we are living in a golden age that is completely unprecedented in the history of humanity. Quote So given all this good stuff, why is everyone so anxious, depressed and angry all the time? Obviously it's partly because of increased access to information – we can now see disasters unfolding in real time. But it's also evolutionary; we evolved to constantly scan the horizon for threats. Only bad news catches our eye. Quote And this has political implications. Norberg is clear that he has written this book partially as a warning. The sense that "everything is going downhill" is exactly what feeds populist politics like Trump, Marine Le Pen and Brexit. And these are precisely movements that threaten the very progress we're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Never knew he'd been on Saint and Greavsie doing the Rumbelows Cup draw And been stunnered. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 5 hours ago, Tegis said: Love his consistency It may be worth mentioning that when he was trying to stop windfarms being placed at sea within eyesight of the ludicrous golf course he developed in Scotland, wrecking unique and irreplaceable sand dune ecosystems in the process, he paid hard--up local young people to pretend to be protestors against the wind farms. He paid £20. Not just an unspeakabke hypocrite, but a total cheapskate into the bargain. word removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 The ITV news mooting, in comments about his potential team, the name of his son-in-law as his Chief of Staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 If you wrote it up as a sitcom, it would be rejected as too implausible. Bedlam. Bunch of utter tosspots. And they have the power to unpick environmental measures at immense cost to the entire world, in pursuit of short-term profit and in service to their own unquantifiable stupidity. Scary, scary stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 South Park they must have the best lawyers on the planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Trumps face ,whilst meeting Obhama in the Whitehouse . " What the hell have I got myself in to " . Obhama ,ever the " cool cat " . milking it for all it's worth . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 7 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: i just think that's total utter bollocks. You're dismissing evidence for feelings. And I agree with Chindie, "old fashioned views" is just a euphemism for justifying whatever bigoted viewpoints you may have. Certain views are and should remain old fashioned for a reason. Same with "traditional values". Not aimed at you ruge, aimed at the phrase itself. I always find it interesting that it's the people who harp on about old fashion values that are the first to criticize Muslims in some war torn part of the middle east for their old fashion values...as if, if they ever completely gotten their way and their country was in complete anarchy they wouldn't be too dissimilar. Another in a long line of hypocrisies which makes it very hard for me to be sympathetic with the people who voted for Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 Pence is in many ways worse, cuz he's a true believer. He thinks electroshock therapy cures homosexuality. Hes a born again maniac who would welcome Armageddon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Keyblade said: I always find it interesting that it's the people who harp on about old fashion values that are the first to criticize Muslims in some war torn part of the middle east for their old fashion values...as if, if they ever completely gotten their way and their country was in complete anarchy they wouldn't be too dissimilar. Another in a long line of hypocrisies which makes it very hard for me to be sympathetic with the people who voted for Trump. Worlds apart. Inhumane comes to mind. Edited November 12, 2016 by Rugeley Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted November 12, 2016 Moderator Share Posted November 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Worlds apart. Inhumane comes to mind. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 1 hour ago, NurembergVillan said: Why? Follows strict form of Islam? Women covered up, belief in sharia law. By no means supports terrorism but the Islamic world like others still has some barbaric ways. I'm going to get jumped on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) A conservative Muslim living in the Muslim world is almost certainly going to be very religious. It's not the same in this part of the world. Don't really need to say anymore than that really. In my eyes belief in sharia law is inhumane .Also some of their other beliefs are too. Anyway back OT. Edited November 12, 2016 by Rugeley Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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