bobzy Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 27 minutes ago, avfc1982 said: Having Westwood in the team over the last few years is definitely one of the reasons we've been so shite for so long. Open your eyes, mate, there's a reason why we've had the worst midfield ever. Westwood is integral to it. "The worst midfield ever". Interesting. I won't look up stats for last season on my phone but, from memory, we came around 10th in terms of possession, lower mid-table (15th I think) in chances created and had a midfielder (Gueye) with the second most interceptions in the Premier League. However, we hit the target with the least consistency (20th in the league), had the worst shots on target to goal ratio (20th in the league), conceded the most goals, scored the fewest goals and suffered the most yellow cards - with Hutton, Ayew and Cissokho our main offenders. Obviously our entire team was very poor last season but the midfield was easily the most decent part of it. There's a reason teams have taken, say, Gueye, Veretout and Gil whilst we sit here with Lescott, Richards and Agbonlahor on our books. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 minute ago, bobzy said: "The worst midfield ever". Interesting. I won't look up stats for last season on my phone but, from memory, we came around 10th in terms of possession, lower mid-table (15th I think) in chances created and had a midfielder (Gueye) with the second most interceptions in the Premier League. However, we hit the target with the least consistency (20th in the league), had the worst shots on target to goal ratio (20th in the league), conceded the most goals, scored the fewest goals and suffered the most yellow cards - with Hutton, Ayew and Cissokho our main offenders. Obviously our entire team was very poor last season but the midfield was easily the most decent part of it. There's a reason teams have taken, say, Gueye, Veretout and Gil whilst we sit here with Lescott, Richards and Agbonlahor on our books. our midfield was a disgrace last season, stats can prove anything people want them to. I seen enough of our midfield last season get walked around by teams that arent even that special 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, bobzy said: Obviously our entire team was very poor last season but the midfield was easily the most decent part of it. There's a reason teams have taken, say, Gueye, Veretout and Gil whilst we sit here with Lescott, Richards and Agbonlahor on our books. maybe the blend was poor and maybe you are right that it wasn't the worst midfield that we have ever had.....but to say it was the most decent part of it, well. I thought the midfield as a unit was poor, very poor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, Zatman said: our midfield was a disgrace last season, stats can prove anything people want them to. I seen enough of our midfield last season get walked around by teams that arent even that special I'm not denying they were very poor - just not the worst ever nor, indeed, the worst in the league. The fact we couldn't score nor defend relegated us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woodytom Posted August 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2016 that midfield was without doubt the worst midfield in the league. And it's more than reasonable to suggest it's the worst midfield in the league ever. Absolutely shocking. We had the worst attack and defence in addition, but to suggest that midfield wasn't the worst is just daft. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 29 minutes ago, bobzy said: I'm not denying they were very poor - just not the worst ever nor, indeed, the worst in the league. The fact we couldn't score nor defend relegated us. Are you implying the midfield had no say in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 20 minutes ago, Woodytom said: that midfield was without doubt the worst midfield in the league. And it's more than reasonable to suggest it's the worst midfield in the league ever. Absolutely shocking. We had the worst attack and defence in addition, but to suggest that midfield wasn't the worst is just daft. There were plenty of games where we looked good in midfield and controlled large parts of games. I can't think of any times when we really looked good at the back or up front. Yes, the midfield plays a part in both, but in many games the midfield performance was let down at one or both ends of the pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted August 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2016 This thread is exhausting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Just now, Villan_of_oz said: This thread is exhausting..... Best thread on villa talk ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted August 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2016 15 minutes ago, Woodytom said: Best thread on villa talk ever! Yes well I've probably been following far too closely the last few days. Might go bump the Gabby thread just to try and change the mood. Oh hang a minute.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 29 minutes ago, Woodytom said: Best thread on villa talk ever! It's no Barry Bannan thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 hour ago, bobzy said: I'm not denying they were very poor - just not the worst ever nor, indeed, the worst in the league. The fact we couldn't score nor defend relegated us. From what I saw, the lack of creativity and lack of protection from our midfield, played a big part in both those things you mentioned. Last year we were one of the worst teams in premier league, quite possibly the worst when you take other things into account. There was no part of that team that could be labeled as better than others IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Woodytom said: that midfield was without doubt the worst midfield in the league. And it's more than reasonable to suggest it's the worst midfield in the league ever. Absolutely shocking. We had the worst attack and defence in addition, but to suggest that midfield wasn't the worst is just daft. That's your opinion - certainly not daft to suggest otherwise. I think our midfield was better than that of Norwich, Sunderland and West Brom off the top of my head. The main problem was being unable to score and having silly mistakes cost us time and time again - Guzan vs Dyer, Lescott vs anyone, Bacuna lobbing a backpass to Shane Long, Amavi getting caught on the ball etc etc We were competitive (in terms of "in the game") for a hell of a lot more games than the final table suggests. We were just absolutely toothless and, also, incredibly leaky at the back. Of course the midfield played a part in this (again, I'm not saying it was great!), but just nowhere near the same extent. Our midfielders are being sought after - our other players really aren't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Enjoyable to have a proper two sided debate, shows why football is such a wonderful game. Having said its enjoyable though, I've had enough ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 3 hours ago, heid3ster said: It's no Barry Bannan thread. Someone needs to get Con and his heat maps out of retirement. Can he adopt Westwood as his new Villa son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I can only assume Con is now an avid Sheff Weds fan...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shomin Geki Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 How many Ashley Westwood's does it take to change a lightbulb? Oh hang on a minute, he's just made a little crack in the curtains and we can kind of see things. No need for this illumination lark! We're good... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) He was part of the worst midfield ever therefore he's a bad midfielder is such poor logic. You know who else was part of that midfield? Fabian Delph, who played in a CL semifinal last season. Must be terrible too. Edited August 25, 2016 by Keyblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 10 hours ago, bobzy said: "The worst midfield ever". Interesting. I won't look up stats for last season on my phone but, from memory, we came around 10th in terms of possession, lower mid-table (15th I think) in chances created and had a midfielder (Gueye) with the second most interceptions in the Premier League. However, we hit the target with the least consistency (20th in the league), had the worst shots on target to goal ratio (20th in the league), conceded the most goals, scored the fewest goals and suffered the most yellow cards - with Hutton, Ayew and Cissokho our main offenders. Obviously our entire team was very poor last season but the midfield was easily the most decent part of it. There's a reason teams have taken, say, Gueye, Veretout and Gil whilst we sit here with Lescott, Richards and Agbonlahor on our books. Good god, if you thought our midfield was the best part of our team last season then you must have been watching a different team to me. That midfield was the worst Villa midfield I've seen in my life and no amount of stat manipulation you come up with will ever persuade me different. Westwood has been a stain on Aston Villa and the sooner he's gone the better. Just look at how bad we've become since he arrived. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 31 minutes ago, Keyblade said: He was part of the worst midfield ever therefore he's a bad midfielder is such poor logic. You know who else was part of that midfield? Fabian Delph, who played in a CL semifinal last season. Must be terrible too. Delph played no part in our relegation last season. Westwood was the main man in midfield, and what a dog's dinner he made of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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