krisagg75 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 trouble with the pool is the owners are pure moneyball so they'd never pay those sort of wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 ...Forgot about Diego Costa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Some people were pointing out last season his transfer record was poor and only masked by those two. I seem to recall some thought that unfair, seems it wasn't. and Suarez wasnt even his signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 trouble with the pool is the owners are pure moneyball so they'd never pay those sort of wages. They seem to think that they can sign young players and then turn them into stars. The problem is that they vastly overpay for those young players and then they don't really improve. Part of me feels sorry for Rodgers because I'm not sure how much, if any, input he has into the transfers but another much larger part of me finds it all hilarious because he's an creepy weirdo and Liverpool are an annoying football club with the worst supporters in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 the transfer committee they have sounds like a bad policy to go with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) the transfer committee they have sounds like a bad policy to go with Apparently the owner is investigating this committee given that they have wasted over nine figures worth of money. I just heard that the committee can veto any transfer Rodgers wants if they think it's too expensive but Rodgers can also veto any targets the committee proposes. So it looks like they all have to agree before a player is signed which means Rodgers can't spot a player for shite. Edited December 17, 2014 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Classic committee decisions then, rather than a risky like for like big money signing with the Suarez money they've agreed to hedge their bets by spreadimg it around on several young players in the hope at least 1 will grow into a star. Football doesn't generally work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) And while you're waiting for that one star to develop, you're average. By the time he develops, he doesn't want to play for an average team and you lose said star anyway. Edited December 18, 2014 by kurtsimonw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Brendan Rodgers Liverpool signings so far Fabio Borini £10,400,000 Joe Allen £15,000,000 Oussama Assaidi £3,000,000 Samed Yesil £1,000,000 Daniel Sturridge £12,000,000 Philippe Coutinho £8,500,000 João Carlos Teixeira £830,000 Luis Alberto £6,800,000 Iago Aspas £7,000,000 Simon Mignolet £9,000,000 Kolo Touré Free Transfer Aly Cissokho On Loan Mamadou Sakho £15,000,000 Tiago Ilori £7,000,000 Victor Moses Chelsea On Loan Rickie Lambert £4,500,00 Adam Lallana £25,000,000 Emre Can £9,750,000 Lazar Markovic £19,800,000 Dejan Lovren £20,000,000 Divick Origi Lille £9,800,000 Javier Manquillo On Loan Alberto Moreno £12,000,000 Mario Balotelli £16,000,000 £218million..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 and people have a go at Lambert wasting money! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 and people have a go at Lambert wasting money! It could be worse, eh? Imagine if Villa had just appointed the person who oversaw a lot of those signings like Aspas, Alberto etc in a capacity to sort our their scouting. That'd be terrible. Oh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 19, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 19, 2014 and people have a go at Lambert wasting money! It could be worse, eh? Imagine if Villa had just appointed the person who oversaw a lot of those signings like Aspas, Alberto etc in a capacity to sort our their scouting. That'd be terrible. Oh. But thankfully Villa haven't done that. Liverpool's transfer activity was overseen by a transfer committee consisting of various people with the manager having the final say, Riley who we have appointed was a scout for Liverpool and not part of the committee. Riley is a scout, and is heading up our scouting that isn't the same thing as identifying targets and agreeing the deals to sign them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 and people have a go at Lambert wasting money! It could be worse, eh? Imagine if Villa had just appointed the person who oversaw a lot of those signings like Aspas, Alberto etc in a capacity to sort our their scouting. That'd be terrible. Oh. But thankfully Villa haven't done that. Liverpool's transfer activity was overseen by a transfer committee consisting of various people with the manager having the final say, Riley who we have appointed was a scout for Liverpool and not part of the committee. Riley is a scout, and is heading up our scouting that isn't the same thing as identifying targets and agreeing the deals to sign them. Just think it's a bit rich taking the piss out of Liverpool for signings when we've got a CEO crowing about taking one of their team responsible for them. Don't think it matters too much either way because the likelihood of us spending £8million is so small these days that worrying it'll be on one of the many flops above is pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 19, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 19, 2014 What I think is really rich is a CEO trying to take credit for the work of others but that is another story/thread. In terms of Reilly, I've really no idea about his ability as a scout all I'm saying is that I don't think that because he was a scout at Liverpool he should be tarnished by the decisions of a committee, headed by a manager, which he wasn't part of. That we have our own issues doesn't in my view prevent us being able to laugh at a club that has spunked a couple of hundred million up a wall on a job lot of rubbish players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I have to be honest, I'm in agreement with Pilchard here. Surely anybody remotely related to picking out that 'job lot of rubbish players' should be pretty much written off. He must have been one of the people to recommend some of those players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 19, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 19, 2014 Who knows. He might have recommended a completely different list of players, he was just one of the scouts employed by the club. The point I was making is that stating we appointed "the person who oversaw a lot of those signings" is simply factually incorrect, period. That point isn't really debatable for the reasons I've already illustrated. If some want to attribute some of the signings to his scouting then so be it but the reality is non of us have a scoobie which if any he scouted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I have to be honest, I'm in agreement with Pilchard here. Surely anybody remotely related to picking out that 'job lot of rubbish players' should be pretty much written off. He must have been one of the people to recommend some of those players? Not in the slightest. A scout scouts tons and tons of player but ultimately it comes down to the manager, and in Liverpool's case, this bullshit committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 That transfer list is shocking. Toure on a free was obviously good business. Sturridge and Coutinho have been value for money, but can you say that about many more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 20, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2014 I have to be honest, I'm in agreement with Pilchard here. Surely anybody remotely related to picking out that 'job lot of rubbish players' should be pretty much written off. He must have been one of the people to recommend some of those players? Not in the slightest. A scout scouts tons and tons of player but ultimately it comes down to the manager, and in Liverpool's case, this bullshit committee. I was going to say this. As I understand it scouts will scout tonnes of players. They don't have the final say at all. That's not to say this chap is in no way responsible. For all we know he might have highly recommended all of Liverpool's signings. But conversely, he may well have recommended a list of superb players who the "committee" all vetoed for whatever reason. As usual, we should probably wait and see what he does for Villa before writing him off/praising him based on things we don't really have any knowledge about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 That transfer list is shocking. Toure on a free was obviously good business. Sturridge and Coutinho have been value for money, but can you say that about many more? I'd say Cissokho on loan was good business, mainly because if they'd have bought him permanently we would have had to spend a lot more than £1.75m to get a cracking left back! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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