Electric Avenue Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Who was at fault for goal 1 today ? Possibly more than 1 player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 KEA gave it away. Lowton didn't deal with it strongly. Once it got into the middle, there was nothing to do IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I need to watch the highlights but at VP it didn't look good from Vlaar for the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) Ben Arfa was allowed to check in on his strongest side Abysmal defending Edited September 14, 2013 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Okore>Baker>Clark=Vlaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Yep. Poor attempt diving in at cisse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) Vlaar really isn't the first to blame in that goal. Firstly, what the hell was KEA doing? Secondly, Lowton has to be stronger. Will Vlaar be the defensive scapegoat this year? Edited September 14, 2013 by StefanAVFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 This babysitting talk is absolutely ridiculous. Awful excuse. Clark is an international defender with a lot of experience in the Premier League, and Baker is actually better than Vlaar in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Again it was a contribution of errors KEA - Lowton (who was a tad unfortunate imo to have it bounce off his leg) - Okore/Vlaar and then Luna for the first. The second was 100% Luna and Clark possibly Lowton as well for being flat footed and not tight on Gouffran. My god though.. Everyone knows you push Ben Arfa onto his right foot every time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Exactly. To blame Vlaar for that first goal is luna-(teehee)cy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 KEA was weak but still a lot to do to score. Lowton was unlucky. Vlaar made a weak attempt to dive in when he had a good chance to block the danger and he failed to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 If KEA boots that ball away rather than faffing then we wouldn't even be having this discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'm sure in most goals you could point to a player who gives the ball away at some point. When it gets in the danger area your defenders needs to do better than what ours did. I'm not saying others were fine but Vlaar was poor in that 1st goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted September 15, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2013 First goal was on Lowton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Clark was better than Vlaar yesterday. Maybe Clark would be better for not having to babysit "Concrete". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I can't fault the CBs for either of the goals yesterday really. The first is basically a question of who should've been tracking Ben Arfa. You can argue Lowton could have done more but he is unfortunate in the way the ball comes off him back to Remy. You'd have to put most of the fault with Luna who allowed Ben Arfa to be the wrong side of him. Vlaar cannot be blamed as he is dealing with Cisse who the cross was actually intended for. KEA is partly responsible for trying to play his way out of trouble also. As for the second, Luna allows Ben Arfa on the inside and Lowton doesn't track Gouffran. So they both share the blame for that one. But this is ultimately Lambert's responsibility and him not getting us to double-up on Ben Arfa cost us the match. He has no excuse either considering we saw first-hand what he can do when we played at St. James' Park. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaonsea Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Ron made some vital tackles toward the end that kept our hopes alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 He played great against Newcastle. One of his better games for us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Stop making exuses for this guy he is our weake link bigtime as he was last season !!!!.Should not be captain let alone starting 11.It's a shame Okore is injuried.Lambert needs to wake up to himself and drop him.Problem is that now there is not much to replace him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Was he wearing ice skates the weekend kept falling over all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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