Popular Post markavfc40 Posted August 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) Having watched Ron during the world cup and today I've dropped a bit of a bollock. I have described Ron as just a decent Premier league centre back. However my opinion was wrongly dragged down by him having for the previous two seasons with us having to nanny inexperienced players that were simply out of their depth. He is a very good centre back who alongside half decent players who know their jobs is a big asset for us. If we are ever to move out the doldrums we have been in for way too long then we need to build our team around players like Vlaar. I could accept him moving to one of the top 5 clubs but he shouldn't need to go to a club like Southampton. We should be able to put him on a contract to match whatever they can offer and in terms of size of club we beat them hands down. Too many players at this club over recent years have not warranted the wages they are on. Ron doesn't fall into that category and I hope Lerner quickly offers him a contract that his undoubted importance to us warrants. Edited August 16, 2014 by markavfc40 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I like to think that Lambert hasn't offered him the new contract yet, because he wanted to bring in some decent players first. Now we've got Cissokho and Sanchez, it's the perfect time to offer Vlaar a new deal. Had we offered him a contract when we'd only brought in Cole and Senderos, he may have questioned our ambition. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 16, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2014 I like to think that Lambert hasn't offered him the new contract yet, because he wanted to bring in some decent players first. Now we've got Cissokho and Sanchez, it's the perfect time to offer Vlaar a new deal. Had we offered him a contract when we'd only brought in Cole and Senderos, he may have questioned our ambition. Clever thought Rob. Hopefully Lambo is that smart. Ron is our best player. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I tend to stay out of this thread because frankly since the World Cup its been a mixture of defeatism and near hysteria about the potential loss of our skipper. The manager is on record as saying he hasn't had a call about him let alone a bid so right now there is no real reason to be concerned. Yes there has been some speculation, its the summer it happens, especially when a player has had a good World Cup but the level of what can only be described as paranoia is crazy. Koeman has talked plenty in the press (the club and FA should do something about that) but despite seemingly having money to burn (Shane Long £12m?!?! Koeman you nutter) he hasn't made a bid. Its time for him to piss or get off the pot frankly. In an ideal world would I have liked Vlaar to have signed a new deal by now? Absolutely but Villa these days is pretty bloody far from being an ideal world. Its the summer, the transfer window and we've lost and haven't replaced our Chief Exec, we are on a deadline to bring players in and currently trying to conclude a complex deal for a player in a vital position in our squad. Frankly there are other things more pressing than Vlaar's contract. I'm sure little chats and conversations will have taken place between Lambert and Vlaar and I'm sure once the window closes more solid conversations will take place which may or may not result in new deal being signed. But right now, I'm not in the slightest bit concerned given there are no bids and just a gobby cheat down on the South coast mouthing off about someone else's player and oddly its not Redknapp!!! So chill out people, I know how important Vlaar is to us but right now there doesn't seem to be a huge amount to worry about. Quoting this as it is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Anyone else think the fact that United lost today could make them less likely to bid for Vlaar? Don't get me wrong, I think he's good enough for them in their current state and would greatly improve their defence but at the same time I don't think he's a big enough "name" and a lot of United fans would be unhappy about it because they'd just look at our defensive record from the past 2 seasons and assume that he isn't good enough rather than actually looking at it closer. They'll be going all out to sign big names now I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I like to think that Lambert hasn't offered him the new contract yet, because he wanted to bring in some decent players first. Now we've got Cissokho and Sanchez, it's the perfect time to offer Vlaar a new deal. Had we offered him a contract when we'd only brought in Cole and Senderos, he may have questioned our ambition. Clever thought Rob. Hopefully Lambo is that smart. Ron is our best player. End of. Benteke is our best player, miles ahead of the rest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 That epic hug when the whistle blew between him and Senderos. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockStockVilla Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Hopefully delighted he is no longer running the babysitter's club in the back line this year. The longer the bombscare brothers are off the field the better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Must must stay. So be it if he leaves on a free in 12 months and we lose potentially 8m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Could the latest rumour regarding a takeover be the reason we haven't pushed hard to offer new deals to first team players? Is this something new owners will have to do due to the potential high wages involved? It seems so strange that gabby,delph and vlaar have not signed new deals and the club have barely mentioned it to the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thevillanofoz Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) Anyone else think the fact that United lost today could make them less likely to bid for Vlaar? Don't get me wrong, I think he's good enough for them in their current state and would greatly improve their defence but at the same time I don't think he's a big enough "name" and a lot of United fans would be unhappy about it because they'd just look at our defensive record from the past 2 seasons and assume that he isn't good enough rather than actually looking at it closer. They'll be going all out to sign big names now I think. Unfortunately no, I think LVG has probably had a bit of a shock and needs to fix it fast. Their defence is so crap and LVG knows what he s getting with Vlaar and knows he can cope with the PL. I d rather they d won and their defence had been brilliant tbh. Their own fans are even arguing about it with a fair few asking for LVG to get him in. Edited August 16, 2014 by Thevillanofoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Anyone else think the fact that United lost today could make them less likely to bid for Vlaar? Don't get me wrong, I think he's good enough for them in their current state and would greatly improve their defence but at the same time I don't think he's a big enough "name" and a lot of United fans would be unhappy about it because they'd just look at our defensive record from the past 2 seasons and assume that he isn't good enough rather than actually looking at it closer. They'll be going all out to sign big names now I think. Unfortunately no, I think LVG has probably had a bit of a shock and needs to fix it fast. Their defence is so crap and LVG knows what he s getting with Vlaar and knows he can cope with the PL. I d rather they d won and their defence had been brilliant tbh. Their own fans are even arguing about it with a fair few asking for LVG to get him in. True, but I just can't see Vlaar being a big enough name for them, even though he's got the quality. Aren't they getting in Benatia anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Anyone else think the fact that United lost today could make them less likely to bid for Vlaar? Don't get me wrong, I think he's good enough for them in their current state and would greatly improve their defence but at the same time I don't think he's a big enough "name" and a lot of United fans would be unhappy about it because they'd just look at our defensive record from the past 2 seasons and assume that he isn't good enough rather than actually looking at it closer. They'll be going all out to sign big names now I think. Unfortunately no, I think LVG has probably had a bit of a shock and needs to fix it fast. Their defence is so crap and LVG knows what he s getting with Vlaar and knows he can cope with the PL. I d rather they d won and their defence had been brilliant tbh. Their own fans are even arguing about it with a fair few asking for LVG to get him in. True, but I just can't see Vlaar being a big enough name for them, even though he's got the quality. Aren't they getting in Benatia anyway. My cousin was one of those that said the same about Vlaar not being good enough for United. I text him today saying are you sure he isn't good enough? No reply. If their defence continues to leak goals in the next few weeks and they haven't landed all their targets. I can see the bid for Vlaar coming in. Hopefully they don't think he is good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Vlaar isn't a big enough signing for them after that loss. If they had brought him in before, maybe, but I reckon they need the fans on side and will bring in some big signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Vlaar isn't a big enough signing for them after that loss. If they had brought him in before, maybe, but I reckon they need the fans on side and will bring in some big signings. Some big signings and Vlaar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Please just stay Ron. Villa, get a serious contract offer sorted out asap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Hopefully PL brings in 2 more good players and with a good result next week, Ron just might be convinced to sign on the line which is dotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Vlaar isn't a big enough signing for them after that loss. If they had brought him in before, maybe, but I reckon they need the fans on side and will bring in some big signings. Depends how you look at it, Vlaar isn't a Vidic or Ferdinand but is miles better than what they have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Hopefully PL brings in 2 more good players and with a good result next week, Ron just might be convinced to sign on the line which is dotted.I think Vlaar would want to sign a new deal now. Senderos, Sanchez and Cissokho are looking light good buys, Richardson too, to a lesser extent. Plus, Lambert has made it clear he's after 1 or 2 more. Give him a contract now! (... Before we go and sign two more free transfers ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted August 17, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2014 I'd keep him right now even if he didn't accept a new contract. Safety is more important than getting £8m. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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