NowDoINotLikeThat Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Theres no irony in McLeish being crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 25, 2011 Moderator Share Posted November 25, 2011 We also have the most repetitive fans There is an irony to this post that makes me smile. There is an irony to this post that makes me smile. Quality!!!! loving your work fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 We also have the most repetitive fans There is an irony to this post that makes me smile. There is an irony to this post that makes me smile. Quality!!!! loving your work fella. Good man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 To me the appointment of Mcleish was just so wrong it strikes as the script from trading places. Lerner probably bet Faulkner £1 that he could take any old idiot and put them in charge I bet Mortimer is involved! :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanfromluton Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Only read this page, but the guy was an idiot the other night with the team he chose and deserves all the criticism he is getting. FFS, we are not the sty, we have some decent players, choose them and TRY TO WIN a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellbydate Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I was okay with McLeish coming in - thought he might be okay - now I'm having real doubts. I don't and never did give a toss that he was ex-bluenose but his negative bias and the crass negativity at Spurs bothers me big time. Swansea aren't Spurs and although a decent outfit, we should be going out to attack them - if he gets this one wrong then that's it - I'm switching to the McLeish Out camp ! Ah the penny drops, finally! I really do think that a majority of us on here that didn't want McUseless couldn't care less about his previous employers it was always his anti-football tactics that bothered me. Trouble is we will be stuck with this for at least this season as RL will not/can't afford to get rid of him. it's not about the penny dropping, and it's not about everyone who has been after his head since the start of the season being right. some of us have been willing to give him a chance, and i think we have seen a few improvements. morale is much better, and we've seen a few players improving, especially gabby. we've played pretty well in patches. however, it's not about a realisation, more fears becoming reality. the men behind the ball, giving away possession, Emile Heskey. i think there is potential for it to work out while we 'stablise' (remainder of the season), but McLeish needs to stop setting us up like we're **** Birmingham City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I was okay with McLeish coming in - thought he might be okay - now I'm having real doubts. I don't and never did give a toss that he was ex-bluenose but his negative bias and the crass negativity at Spurs bothers me big time. Swansea aren't Spurs and although a decent outfit, we should be going out to attack them - if he gets this one wrong then that's it - I'm switching to the McLeish Out camp ! Ah the penny drops, finally! I really do think that a majority of us on here that didn't want McUseless couldn't care less about his previous employers it was always his anti-football tactics that bothered me. Trouble is we will be stuck with this for at least this season as RL will not/can't afford to get rid of him. Morale has been better this season but could it have really got any worse last season? I would also argue that the Spurs game highlighted a real morale issue with our senior players, particularly Collins. We have the arrogance of Chelsea's senior players but none of the talent. it's not about the penny dropping, and it's not about everyone who has been after his head since the start of the season being right. some of us have been willing to give him a chance, and i think we have seen a few improvements. morale is much better, and we've seen a few players improving, especially gabby. we've played pretty well in patches. however, it's not about a realisation, more fears becoming reality. the men behind the ball, giving away possession, Emile Heskey. i think there is potential for it to work out while we 'stablise' (remainder of the season), but McLeish needs to stop setting us up like we're **** Birmingham City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambles Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I'd agree on most points and while it's good to not he has got the best out of Gabby, unfortunately, alot of other members of the squad have gone backwards. Bent and particularly Albrighton are shadows of the players they were. Bannan obviously has talent to burn but needs reigning in and games. Delph made a decent start to the season but has gone backwards, the defence look like they've never played with each other, Hutton has been nothing but a liability since he came here and N'Zogbia must be kicking himself for not joining Newcastle. McLeish hasn't got a clue how to use a player like him. Where the hell has the Fonz disappeared off to as well? Can't get near the team, and Gary Gardner will go the same way. What the **** our midfielders on the bench must think when they see 'Der Kaiser' Heskey line up to start a game in the middle of the park is beyond me. Petrov I just feel sorry for. He's willing, but not so able any more and we should be looking to replace him or have younger fitter players doing the donkey work, not lining him up with an actual donkey in Heskey and two right backs, one of who is a reject from a team who used to be our rivals and is shit, and the other a youngster. Great, I'm wound up now. :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 The knives will defo be out come tomorrow afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Things need to change and quickly, starting with the manager, then the dressing room "massive" who want it their way or the teddy is out the pram. The club needs majory surgery on both the playing and first team coaching staff, the appointment of McLeish was nothing more than a stop gap to pretend that there is not a problem within the dressing room, a bloody yes man for the board and players. This is Aston Villa Football Club and the players are paid employees, either get with the program or get out. Faulkners ridiculous statement about Warnock shows how bloody gutless he is, the tool should never have pulled on the shirt again. I would rather see our kids given the chance to make an impact than a bunch of players who are the wrongside of 30 wanting their cake and eating it. Sick of hearing the same popularity rubbish, can someone point out where the premier league award payments for being nice? McLeish is not here to make friends, he is here to manage a football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 ^ spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdubber Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Throwing the kids on the pitch would mean getting slaughtered by the opposition. Club needs an overhaul, soon. Starting with the board. May well mean being relegated to get some change here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 How much respect in the world of football does someone have who managed to finish 3rd in the SPL with Rangers? Not only that but he took Rangers on their longest ever winless streak in the SPL but he won more trophies head to head than the previous manager we had from SPL and he never got as much criticism especially after some dreadful performances in his 1st season here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 We are also in the bottom 10 teams in European top flight leagues for pass completion, even Blackburn are higher. That's embarrassing. so points are more important than pass completion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Most negative manager EVER to manage in Premier league? I think so. Worse "premiership experience" than Gary Megson? I think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 We are also in the bottom 10 teams in European top flight leagues for pass completion, even Blackburn are higher. That's embarrassing. so points are more important than pass completion Where did I mention anything about points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 How much respect in the world of football does someone have who managed to finish 3rd in the SPL with Rangers? Not only that but he took Rangers on their longest ever winless streak in the SPL but he won more trophies head to head than the previous manager we had from SPL and he never got as much criticism especially after some dreadful performances in his 1st season here Erm.. When did MON finish 3rd in SPL? When did MON relegate a side from the Premiership twice? MON had his faults but dont try to compare this embarrassment bad version of Gary Megson with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted November 26, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted November 26, 2011 I'm not really bothered who's in charge as long as they're willing to go into each game and give it a go. That's why I didnt mind GH so much cos he wanted our players to try to express themselves and try to win. It just didnt work out, but we tried. AMC - I cant accept just setting up for a draw, I cant accept playing not to lose, and not giving a toss about winning. We're not going to do anything in this league now, well, finishing in the top 7 is very unlikely. So why not just go into games, trying to win everyone with an attacking mindset? We've got a good enough squad to put on some really entertaining games and finish around 15th-8th in the league. Which is all we can expect anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I'm not really bothered who's in charge as long as they're willing to go into each game and give it a go. That's why I didnt mind GH so much cos he wanted our players to try to express themselves and try to win. It just didnt work out, but we tried. AMC - I cant accept just setting up for a draw, I cant accept playing not to lose, and not giving a toss about winning. We're not going to do anything in this league now, well, finishing in the top 7 is very unlikely. So why not just go into games, trying to win everyone with an attacking mindset? We've got a good enough squad to put on some really entertaining games and finish around 15th-8th in the league. Which is all we can expect anyway. It is the only way he knows how to manage a side. He is utterly clueless. Also is reason why Birmingham were relegated last season. Birmingham only lost ONE more game than we did last season. Wolves lost 5 more games than Birmingham did but stayed up. He is perhaps the most negative curmudgeon manager ever to manage in the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaRoy Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 He makes my blood boil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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