Zatman Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Manure - based on the fact that they are reigning Champions - almost certainly Liverplop - based on today's performance against Citeh - quite probably Arsehole - based on the fact that they play football and have started to get back to normal - quite probably Chelski - based on the fact that AVB needs to otherwise the prawn sandwich brigade will be after blood - probably Man Utd - one of worst United teams in my lifetime Arsenal- 1 man team at moment if RVP rested or out we can get a result Liverpool- similar to Arsenal a 1 man team Chelsea - an old team in crisis. we have already played the 2 best teams in the league away and i guarantee we wont get 4 hidings in these games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 we have already played the 2 best teams in the league away and i guarantee we wont get 4 hidings in these games I assume you mean Man City, where we got annihilated. The other is? Spurs maybe? A game that's still 'fairly' fresh in my memory. I don't recall it going all that well as it happens. We could get a hiding in all four games. We will probably sneak a point or two, a win would be absolutely astonishing. We have fallen a long, long way. I'm intrigued by your guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted November 27, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2011 He needed a very good start if he was going to earn any grace/favour from many Villa fans and he hasn't had it. In my 30+years following Villa I saw the worst reaction I'd witnessed towards a villa manager at full time against Wolves at VP last season. I can see a similar fate awaiting McLeish with in the next couple of months if results go as expected. The board really havent helped themselves at all in this whole saga. Appointing a manager that nobody wanted in the first place will make it very very easy for the fans to turn their back on him. And it will happen, and it will happen soon. I have a feeling had AMC been managing us last year, we would have been in the exact same situation as we were with GH. All teams from top to bottom were taking points off each other, and it was so tight. This year just isn't the same and I think AMC has been quite fortunate for that so far. Tough December ahead though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endof Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 The best laugh was on Friday in the mail when Paul Faulkner says he is confident in getting into Europe blah blah blah,now what planet is this clown on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Now the tough circumstances of today are the reason for our draw. I was wondering how long it would be until that excuse was rolled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony_Tony_Daley Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Now the tough circumstances of today are the reason for our draw. I was wondering how long it would be until that excuse was rolled out. Not every Villa player knew Gary Speed personally, as sad as the news is it wasn't a factor, our inability to play football was the factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted November 27, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2011 Now the tough circumstances of today are the reason for our draw. I was wondering how long it would be until that excuse was rolled out. I assumed it was sarcasm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 its not really an excuse is it. some of the players knew him and if you see some of your friends upset about something its goign to have an effect. also the fact the crowd seemed very down from the news as well probably didnt help the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Surely when you play a negative, defensive, football with players that have squared feet like Hutton, Dunne and Collins in defence and Emile Heskey in the middle of the park you can't exepct that fans are in high spirits. But I remain optimist and confident as I think that we could play an entertaining, positive, flowing, attacking football with this XI eleven: Given Herd - Clarke - Cuellar - Warnock Albrighton - Petrov/Jenas - Bannan -N'Zogbia Bent - Agbonlahor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Given Herd - Clarke - Cuellar - Warnock Albrighton - Petrov/Jenas - Bannan -N'Zogbia Bent - Agbonlahor we would be relegated with that back 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDrums Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Given Herd Cuellar Dunne Warnock Petrov Jenas Bannan N'Zogbia Bent Gabby. Makes sense to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I'd even put Albrighton instead of N'zogbia, as he will actually put crosses into the box and can't be that much more crap than N'Zogbia. The guy thinks it's imperative to try to beat 3 men at a time before passing the ball. Frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 ---------------------Bent--------------------- ---Agbonlahor-----------------Albrighton--- --------------Jenas------Bannan------------- ---------------------Herd---------------------- --Warnock---Clarke----Dunne-----Lichaj--- --------------------Given----------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 its not really an excuse is it. some of the players knew him and if you see some of your friends upset about something its goign to have an effect. also the fact the crowd seemed very down from the news as well probably didnt help the players What a crock of shit. Is that all you have up your sleeve to justify that abysmal performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoD Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Given Herd Cuellar Dunne Warnock Petrov Jenas Bannan N'Zogbia Bent Gabby. Makes sense to me This management thing is easy isn't it. Pick form players and put them in positions they can be effective. I wouldn't have an issue with Hutton in RB and Herd rotating with the other 3 in the midfield positions depending on the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 its not really an excuse is it. some of the players knew him and if you see some of your friends upset about something its goign to have an effect. also the fact the crowd seemed very down from the news as well probably didnt help the players What a crock of shit. Is that all you have up your sleeve to justify that abysmal performance? Slaying those apparent McLeish-defenders one by one. Someone's gotta do the dirty work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I wonder what the excuse for McLeish will be next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 its not really an excuse is it. some of the players knew him and if you see some of your friends upset about something its goign to have an effect. also the fact the crowd seemed very down from the news as well probably didnt help the players What a crock of shit. Is that all you have up your sleeve to justify that abysmal performance? Slaying those apparent McLeish-defenders one by one. Someone's gotta do the dirty work. Its one excuse after another. There will always be those that make excuses for others and in some cases, with justification but lets put this in perspective shall we............ McLeish has an average managerial record at best and his teams playing style has always been more aligned with "parking the bus". This was never going to suit the demands of the fans at VP even if they could manage to overcome the initial hatred of him arriving from our local rivals. The board wanted to focus on developing our succesful youth and reserve team prospects and integrating them into our first team squad rather than spend as excessively as they did under previous regimes. McLeish new this when he took the job despite having no previous notable success in this particular area. The board also wanted to slash the current wage bill and bring outgoings more into line with income, a common sense process that will ensure the club is on a stable financial footing moving forward. Again, McLeish knew this when he took the job. Finally, the club wanted a manager who was willing to operate on limited funds and build a team that was capable of premier league stability as a a given, but with aspirations to make the European places. McLeish knew this too and despite limited experience in this area (being kind) thought he could deliver. I guess my point here is McLeish knew what he was stepping into and therefore he made his won bloody bed. He isnt daft and must be laughing at the situation he finds himself in, namely a liferaft to another premier league club from his relegation nightmare. Not only that, the said club was stupid enough to offer him a lengthy contract and a double your money pay deal. This was what swayed his decision, he is in a win win situation and I cannot believe that PF or RL offered him this, it smacks of stupidity. Can he do the job, NO. Is he on a shitload of cash success or not. YES Does it matter what he achieves. NO Do I give a monkeys to those who seem oblivious to these facts and therefore trot out one lame excuse after another..............NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Do I give a monkeys to those who seem oblivious to these facts and therefore trot out one lame excuse after another..............NO Surely you do, as you spend the vast majority of your posts valiantly rebutting said people. You're like the opposite side of the coin to makouns_grin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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