jackbauer24 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I thought Gardner was the worst player in our squad, then I saw Jedinak play. Midfield three needs to be Westwood, Tshibola and Gardner without question. Still not strong though is it! There is no combination of two that works, four would mean having too much crap on the field so simply chose the best three of a bad bunch. Personally I'd be playing 4-3-1-2. No point putting on all our best players if they're playing in the wrong position and are worse than the alternative, i.e. our best players are all strikers but we can't play them all so decide on the system that works best and then put the best player for that position in it. Gollini Richards Chester Baker Amavi Gardner Westwood Tshibola Ayew McCormack Kodjia Like it or not, Richards will be better for us than Hutton or Bacuna in that position. Baker is much better than Elphick, despite being average. Amavi needs games and will offer far more than Cissokho. Ayew offers far more consistently than selfish, no end product, lightweight, rely on being fouled Grealish. In a Villa shirt, Grealish does nothing but win occasional fouls then whine the rest of the time when he loses it or is pushed off the ball like a small little boy. But that's for the Grealish thread... Subs Grealish for late spark, Gestede for height/strength when needed, Hutton if we need to close up shop and then any youngster that deserves it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 No no no. Just because our midfield is crap does not mean we are at the Gardner level yet. He's awful . It us like saying we aren't scoring let's give Gabby a chance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I thought he had his chance against Luton, no? First one out the door for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) Praying we can/do recall Sanchez and Veretout in January. The latter has 5x the ability of our other mids. Edited October 16, 2016 by Tom13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Praying we can/do recall Sanchez and Veretout in January. The latter has 5x the ability of our other mids. Yes. These two are definitely superior to what we have. Tsibola I like, and I also think Lyden was good from the limited times I saw him. Westwood and Gardner - not good enough. Jedinak - we were had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, AntrimBlack said: Yes. These two are definitely superior to what we have. Tsibola I like, and I also think Lyden was good from the limited times I saw him. Westwood and Gardner - not good enough. Jedinak - we were had. Tshibola yesterday though...was so frustrating. He looks so laboured and the game just completely bypassed him. Is Lyden a CM btw? What kind of CM is he? Guessing a standard, tenacious type of CM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 On 10/3/2016 at 21:54, PaulC said: We've been worse with Jedinak in the side though. Never though I would say it....but yea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 He was really good for Nottingham a couple seasons ago. The fans were unanimously saying he was premier league quality. We don't know if RDM wanted him playing a way he wasn't used to or good at. I'd give him a clean slate with Brucey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 11 hours ago, Richard said: No no no. Just because our midfield is crap does not mean we are at the Gardner level yet. He's awful . It us like saying we aren't scoring let's give Gabby a chance Awful but 10 times better than that useless word removed with the beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 All of our midfielders are looking even worse than they are by just having one man alongside them. It's too much for them to handle. A three of any combo of our CM's would make the team, and themselves look a lot more capable IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 What I would do for us to have a Petrov, Kevin Richardson, Barry or Milner. I though Gardner was really poor in the games he was involved with so far but he at least has more energy than the Beard so I'd stick him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woodytom Posted October 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 minute ago, dounavilla said: What I would do for us to have a Petrov, Kevin Richardson, Barry or Milner. For a minute I saw Keiron richardson. The frightening thing is, I still agreed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Had a better game for us today, Great pass for Adomah who eventually created the goal. He is ahead of Westwood right now because he can release the ball quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 loved his reaction after the goal, showed it meant something to him nice to hear he had a good game as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanwesty88 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Well done Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Bruce said he covered a lot of ground and showed a lot of passion.. Hopefully kicks on now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perchman Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 He started off pretty badly but grew into it, missed a few opportunities to press but I get a sense he doesn't entirely trust Jedi to clear anything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillaChris Posted October 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2016 So much stick on here and elsewhere....yet if you look at our best performances and results this season he's usually started those games. He's better than what he's shown so far for us imo....maybe being a home grown player he feels the pressure more than most and tries too hard? Also another who also struggles badly in a midfield two. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Reivax_Villa said: Had a better game for us today, Great pass for Adomah who eventually created the goal. He is ahead of Westwood right now because he can release the ball quicker. I'd also suggest he's ahead of Westwood as he's utter, utter shit. Gardner is proven at this level. Westwood is proven in League Two, has been woefully out his depth in Championship not to mention Premier League. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Big chance for him now. Brucey said some nice things about him. You've got till Jan kid. Go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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