villalad21 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, Jonesy7211 said: I'm not a fan of Dyche's style, but this is unfair on him. He's got a poor squad, had very little investment in a team that has repeatedly finished bottom half and for long periods of last season looked like relegation candidates. He has a level though imho. He's done exceptionally well for Burnley. I don't think many others managers would have done the same over such a long period. The point about manager longevity is highly debated though. Quick turnover works for Chelsea, but not so much for Utd or Arsenal. Very much depends on the club. In Burnley's example, I think they'd drop like a stone without Dyche. How far can Dyche's style of play take you though. Regardless of what players you have? Longevity means absolutely nothing if you ain't got a world class system and patterns of play. Like I said longevity is a real outdated concept. Sean Dyche can only take you midtable at best regardless if you give him 1 or 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: How far can Dyche's style of play take you though. Regardless of what players you have? Longevity means absolutely nothing if you ain't got a world class system and patterns of play. Like I said longevity is a real outdated concept. Sean Dyche can only take you midtable at best regardless if you give him 1 or 30 years. It's Burnley, they're not going to be challenging for Europe on the regular are they. They're pretty much at their ceiling right now. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: rafa and dyche will win the same thing this season... Rafa will win the net spend trophy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonesy7211 Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: How far can Dyche's style of play take you though. Regardless of what players you have? Longevity means absolutely nothing if you ain't got a world class system and patterns of play. Like I said longevity is a real outdated concept. Sean Dyche can only take you midtable at best regardless if you give him 1 or 30 years. Is midtable at best the worst thing in today's premier league, especially for a club like Burnley? I'm not dismissing them as a small club, more being realistic based on their finances, resources, and level of support globally. I'm sure there's 72 clubs in the lower leagues that would love to finish midtable in the prem, and probably 12 in the prem too. Again, not saying I'm a fan of his, but I do respect what's he's done and continues to do. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jonesy7211 said: Is midtable at best the worst thing in today's premier league, especially for a club like Burnley? I'm not dismissing them as a small club, more being realistic based on their finances, resources, and level of support globally. I'm sure there's 72 clubs in the lower leagues that would love to finish midtable in the prem, and probably 12 in the prem too. Again, not saying I'm a fan of his, but I do respect what's he's done and continues to do. Burnley for the size of club are massively over achieving and that is solely down to Dyche. They haven't even spent large amounts to solidify them as a PL team. Everton are about right (amongst best of the rest). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Well well well, Rafa doing it yet again it appears. 4th place so far with an average squad and his signings this season done on a shoestring budget! It will be very interesting to see how Everton finish under him this season. Let's not get too excited. They started last season in the same manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Let's not get too excited. They started last season in the same manner. Was talk of Champions League when they made an even better start than this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, villalad21 said: How far can Dyche's style of play take you though. Regardless of what players you have? If it can keep them in the premier league then he’ll have a job for life I assume. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 22/07/2021 at 18:57, rodders0223 said: Classic signings of a manager winding down his career and has really lost a step regards to keeping in with current market and current game. Basically Bruce and Snoddy and pals. "Who was a good lad 5 year ago" Spot on lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, Genie said: If it can keep them in the premier league then he’ll have a job for life I assume. I dont think people realise for how many clubs that is all that matters its the not turning up in the cups that would then piss me off turning it back to everton, QPR away in the next round of the league cup, they are a team that should be going hell for leather for it and if they ever do what they should which is remove the european qualified teams form the league cup then it would be us vs everton that i would earmark at the start of the competition, that'll never happen though, they'll bin the competition off before a game of full strength villa vs everton rather than the B teams of utd vs liverpool - everton have had 1 appearance at new wembley 13 years ago, thats not good enough 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Everton fans where I am are doing my head in going on about Rafa being a genius and how they are going to thrash us this weekend. We better beat them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 14, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, PaulC said: Everton fans where I am are doing my head in going on about Rafa being a genius and how they are going to thrash us this weekend. We better beat them can't stand everton fans. definitely the worst half of that city...i know i'm in the minority but whenever i've spoken to genuine liverpool fans i've found them to be sound. never met an everton fan i've liked though...t*ssers the lot of them. gotta win saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 47 minutes ago, tomav84 said: can't stand everton fans. definitely the worst half of that city 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 14, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2021 40 minutes ago, Genie said: LOL i did acknowledge i was in the minority there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, PaulC said: Everton fans where I am are doing my head in going on about Rafa being a genius and how they are going to thrash us this weekend. We better beat them the same Everton fans sending him death threatds a few weeks back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: can't stand everton fans. definitely the worst half of that city...i know i'm in the minority but whenever i've spoken to genuine liverpool fans i've found them to be sound. never met an everton fan i've liked though...t*ssers the lot of them. gotta win saturday from my limited experience of meeting Liverpool fans from Liverpool they are OK. Its the ones from elsewhere that really annoy me...it could be the same for United but I never met one from Manchester 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Zatman said: Was talk of Champions League when they made an even better start than this season Those heady days of the Cazoo title race 4 games into last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: can't stand everton fans. definitely the worst half of that city...i know i'm in the minority but whenever i've spoken to genuine liverpool fans i've found them to be sound. never met an everton fan i've liked though...t*ssers the lot of them. gotta win saturday I like Everton, always have done . One of the true great English clubs and I think their fan base is second to none . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, tomav84 said: can't stand everton fans. definitely the worst half of that city...i know i'm in the minority but whenever i've spoken to genuine liverpool fans i've found them to be sound. never met an everton fan i've liked though...t*ssers the lot of them. gotta win saturday Its just banter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Zatman said: from my limited experience of meeting Liverpool fans from Liverpool they are OK. Its the ones from elsewhere that really annoy me...it could be the same for United but I never met one from Manchester This is absolutely spot on IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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