Johnnyp Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Di Matteo spoke today of playing him more inside, perhaps in a 3 man midfield. If so, he needs to toughen up a bit. Little Will Hughes put him on his arse a few weeks ago and he started mouthing off. Mans game Jack. Get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 hours ago, Johnnyp said: Di Matteo spoke today of playing him more inside, perhaps in a 3 man midfield. If so, he needs to toughen up a bit. Little Will Hughes put him on his arse a few weeks ago and he started mouthing off. Mans game Jack. Get used to it. Too be fair, Hughes made a hell of fouls not just on Jack. It was more a moan that Hughes wasn't getting booked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 4 hours ago, Johnnyp said: Di Matteo spoke today of playing him more inside, perhaps in a 3 man midfield. If so, he needs to toughen up a bit. Little Will Hughes put him on his arse a few weeks ago and he started mouthing off. Mans game Jack. Get used to it. 100 % not this. We need more of that - see Ronaldo as the best example. Any player with the control Jack has needs to go down every time they are touched and create hell about it. Its the type of thing we do really really badly and I'm glad to see him making more of a noise about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) I'd be quite intrigued to see how he'd perform in a midfield 3, I like the look of this Tshibola - Jedinak - Grealish Glad he's back for tomorrow though, we missed him against Brentford. Edited September 16, 2016 by Farlz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 we need Gresford to bring balance to the force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted September 16, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2016 Has RDM considered playing Grealish and Gresford in the same team. It could bring the balance we are looking for.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I'm glad he has knuckled down and he is working on his career, but sadly not doing enough to warrant a place once McCormack and Gestede are fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Not a winger. but I am not sure how we can play him, McCormack, Ayew, Gestede and Kodija in the same side. Especially if we want to play with wingers (and Jack isn't a winger). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 1 hour ago, DK82 said: Not a winger. but I am not sure how we can play him, McCormack, Ayew, Gestede and Kodija in the same side. Especially if we want to play with wingers (and Jack isn't a winger). Simple, you can't. Well, not if you want to have any balance in the first eleven. Kodjia and McCormack are first choice upfront (whoever is the out and out front man is up for debate) and then one of Grealish or Ayew plays behind them in the creative/ attacking role. Then a solid three man central midfield of Tishbola, Jedinak & Westwood with the width provided by Bacuna/Amavi when attacking. Midfield providing the required cover when Bacuna or Amavi are attacking. A starting 4-3-1-2 basically. Unfortunately for Jack he's not showing enough to warrant a starting place in that line-up. Ayew has offered more, although both are guilty of having no end product, trying to take on five players at once, getting easily pushed off the ball and throwing a sulky tantrum on the floor aimed at anyone who pays them attention. It's arguably the most important role in the team at the moment, linking up the marginally improved defence with the much more potent attack. Unfortunately, largely due to tactics and the performances of Grealish and Ayew we've not managed to get that part working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I would have Jack ahead of Ayew anyday though he needs to learn to pull the trigger more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 8 hours ago, Zatman said: I would have Jack ahead of Ayew anyday though he needs to learn to pull the trigger more Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 8 hours ago, Zatman said: I would have Jack ahead of Ayew anyday though he needs to learn to pull the trigger more He had quite a few shots yesterday. Probably the most I've ever seen him shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 1 hour ago, villianusa said: Why? He's got a better eye for a pass and brings others in to play, jacks problem like others have said is he needs to be a bit greedier, aye we problem is the opposite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 3 hours ago, villa4europe said: He's got a better eye for a pass and brings others in to play, jacks problem like others have said is he needs to be a bit greedier, aye we problem is the opposite I could be wrong, but doesn't Ayew have more assists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Who has more goals this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Who has fluffed more chances? Who has failed to realise the ball to a team mate for a tap in because they'd rather try and beat another defender more times? cant play both IMO and Jack is more team focuses IMO 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest_bertie Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) I'd consider dropping both Grealish and Ayew. Would like to see a front two of Kodija and RMc. And 4 in midfield... MJ, AA, Tish and someone else but not sure who, guess it would be GG or AW. In that senario and with less pressure being part of 4 rather than 2 I'd try GG, plus he seems slightly better than AW in final third. Or maybe one of the u23s, might as well Edited September 18, 2016 by honest_bertie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: Who has fluffed more chances? Who has failed to realise the ball to a team mate for a tap in because they'd rather try and beat another defender more times? cant play both IMO and Jack is more team focuses IMO Yep, feel the same way. I'd rather have a player who always made the right decision on when to dribble and when to shoot obviously, but if we have to choose I'd rather have Jack passing to a teammate when he could have had a shot rather than Ayew missing an obvious pass and dribbling into three defenders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I'd give grealish a lot of game time where he started yesterday. Always thought he'll do his best work in the centre. He'll come good. Needs a series of games there instead of being put back over to the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I think the 4-3-1-2 formation is the best one for our players at the moment. I would argue it's best to play Grealish in the 3 man midfield, Tshibola - Jedinak - Grealish Ayew Gestede - Kodjia This would be my preferred line up as things stand, although I imagine Westwood would play due to the constant injuries to Tshibola. Gestede would probably be replaced by McCormack too. I'd rather have Gestede on current showing. Could also play: Tshibola - Jedinak Kodjia - Grealish - Ayew Gestede I think that team is balanced and strong. Could swap Kodjia to up front and have Adomah on the right wing instead. So effectively what I'm saying is that the problem is McCormack, although that's not what I thought when I started writing the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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