Adam2003 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 we are not good enough to play champions league football yet We're no worse, as far as I can tell, than Olympiakos, and they're in the knock-out rounds. No worse than Rubin Kazan or Unirea Urziceni and they picked up a good few points in the groups and gave the likes of Barcelona and Inter some scares. We're not good enough to win it, maybe we wouldn't get through the group even if we got to it, but we wouldn't embarrass ourselves in the CL. This is a competition, lest we forget, that counts Nicklas Bendtner and Michael Owen as its joint second highest scorers this season - ok, freak hattricks, but still :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Better than alot of teams in the Champions League. CSKA Moscow are through to quarter final's now, you could argue they have a weaker team without Love etc..than last year when we drew 1-1 at home!! I don't see a huge difference to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Serious Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I just don't get posts saying 'I want to get 4th so we can get better players so we can have a chance to win trophies... like the FA Cup.' The chance is here. We didn't need to get 4th to compete this year. This is a major trophy, and it's within our grasp. Screw the CL in comparison. I think people that think we'll attract a whole new caliber of player by finishing 4th would be very disappointed. Those players would know that it might be a one-year event. We wouldn't mortgage our future on higher wages without knowing we'll qualify again. Perhaps we'd move from signing a 12m player to an 18m player. No guarantee he'd be much better, anyway. Clubs like Sevilla, Villareal, Deportivo etc are in and out of the CL every couple of years. When they get in they don't suddenly attract superstars. People know it'll be harder for clubs like them to remain in Europe consistently. We're in the same boat. So let's go and win the trophy on offer, write another major honour into a frankly glorious history, and worry about all the seasons in the future when the off-season comes. (Also my brother and many of my family are Chelsea supporters, and I've been dragged to the filthy Bridge far too many times, so I suppose I might be biased here.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 The chance is here. We didn't need to get 4th to compete this year. This is a major trophy, and it's within our grasp. Yeah, I'd like that feeling once/twice/three times every year. Not once every 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbaldie1 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Weird statement because last season is in the past. I cant see what MON is on about to be honest - it is obvious why the fans were peed off last season. We got 4 chances to win silverware - most teams have three chances we had 4. Now the league, I think even the most optimisticnof people knew we wouldn't win the league (although for that brief moment after Blackburn I did begin to wonder). So that left us three chances to have what football is all about - some glory. And we went out of all three with a whimper, and looked like we couldn't be arsed. That annoyed the fans, the fans made it known to MON. So this season MON has took them seriously, and guess what has happened - we were in a Cup Final and we are three weeks from a Semi-Final/ So if MON doesn't know what we expect - then it is a bit weird ! Nd why bring it up now. He sometimes comes out with some weird statements doesn't he ! I agree, MON seems to be passing the buck & blaming the fans rather than look at himself In the technical area he comes across like a jack-in-the-box, but Martin, your human, & as humans we all make mistakes.... JUST ADMIT YOURS MON. & yes all supporters are fickle, it`s not just Villa fans Purely for financial reasons & a higher profile club status i went for 4th place, which is a sad because winning the F.A. cup should mean more than finishing 4th...but nowadays it doesnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 That annoyed the fans, the fans made it known to MON. So this season MON has took them seriously, and guess what has happened - we were in a Cup Final and we are three weeks from a Semi-Final/ So moaning bitching fans who post on the Internet and ring up radio shows are now being given some credit for our success in the cups this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 face **** desk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 That annoyed the fans, the fans made it known to MON. So this season MON has took them seriously, and guess what has happened - we were in a Cup Final and we are three weeks from a Semi-Final/ So moaning bitching fans who post on the Internet and ring up radio shows are now being given some credit for our success in the cups this year? If we win a trophy, MON should give it straight to those fans as a thank you. It's only right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I think an FA Cup win meaning whatever 4th place now would be perfect, but it won't happen. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Weird statement because last season is in the past. I cant see what MON is on about to be honest - it is obvious why the fans were peed off last season. We got 4 chances to win silverware - most teams have three chances we had 4. Now the league, I think even the most optimisticnof people knew we wouldn't win the league (although for that brief moment after Blackburn I did begin to wonder). So that left us three chances to have what football is all about - some glory. And we went out of all three with a whimper, and looked like we couldn't be arsed. That annoyed the fans, the fans made it known to MON. So this season MON has took them seriously, and guess what has happened - we were in a Cup Final and we are three weeks from a Semi-Final/ So if MON doesn't know what we expect - then it is a bit weird ! Nd why bring it up now. He sometimes comes out with some weird statements doesn't he ! I agree, MON seems to be passing the buck & blaming the fans rather than look at himself In the technical area he comes across like a jack-in-the-box, but Martin, your human, & as humans we all make mistakes.... JUST ADMIT YOURS MON. & yes all supporters are fickle, it`s not just Villa fans Purely for financial reasons & a higher profile club status i went for 4th place, which is a sad because winning the F.A. cup should mean more than finishing 4th...but nowadays it doesnt Yes MON is blaming the fans. And I'm flying a **** unicorn and wanking over a pigsty of magic. Wait until i jump under a rainbow suck the juice from an apple crumble before I shoot supernovas out of my ears until the cows produce chalk and the music returns to the picollo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 FA cup > 4th > Europa > League Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 It's a **** disgrace and a prime example of the way football has gone that coming 4th in a competition is more important than winning another. I hear you, but if we finish 4th, it means more cash for better players, European nights at VP against Barcelona, trips to Munich, etc.... It means a GIANT step up for the club, allowing deep Cup runs year in, year out. But hey, why limit ourselves here? I think we can achieve both this season, woot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 ^ not if we get knocked out in the first qualifier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I would happily have taken a victory in the Carling Cup final over finishing 4th, let alone the FA cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claret75 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Id take 4th over the FA Cup without a doubt. More money, better players and a bigger achievement than winning the FA Cup. Times have changed, the FA Cup is still great to win, but the possibility of CL is much more exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 anyone who is a true fan that attends matches would pick the FA Cup over finishing 3 places behind the Champions. a frankly laughable and embarrasing comment. 4th for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 4th for me too, does this mean i'm not a "true fan" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 fa cup, we are here to win cups and thats what is important. furthermore the chance of beating chelsea and spurs to lifting the cup appeals to me and nothing would give me more satisfaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 4th for me, because I think as long as we beat chelsea, reaching that 4th spot in the league would give the team so much added confidence that we would piss all over spurs or whoever in the FA cup final. i was thinking about the CL last night when i was watching barca, and thinking how good would it be to see villa in the group phase?! i think we would have no problem getting through the qualifiers. so yeah i would like both obviously but i think if we get 4th we will go on to win the FA cup anyway so this is a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Cup win for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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