TheAuthority Posted August 12, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 12, 2022 4 hours ago, sidcow said: Is that because of them all standing up too quickly to tell you they're vegetarian? It's the standing up to wipe that get's the majority of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 13 hours ago, bickster said: Uh oh, @Stevo985 That sounds like the biggest load of bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 12, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: That sounds like the biggest load of bollocks It's probably true to be fair, although the difference is pretty small. Looks like you go from around a 3% chance of a hip fracture to a 4% chance. Which is a 33% increase, but still. I imagine if you weighed up the health benefits of a vegetarian diet vs a meat eating diet the benefits would still be enormous, despite the slight increase in risk of breaking your hip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 36 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: That sounds like the biggest load of bollocks What did your research show? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 42 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: What did your research show? Well i worked in trauma and orthopaedics for 5 years with various surgeons at royal free - some of the leading surgeons in the country who work with stanmore which is a orthopaedic hospital so i think ill go with what i learned through them. Most people (not all) whose hips go are overweight people/older. When one hip goes the pressure goes onto the other one thats working. thats why you will tend to see the other hip go. Meat of course has things in it that helps our bodies but that sorely wont be the reason you break your hip.hope that answers your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: It's probably true to be fair, although the difference is pretty small. Looks like you go from around a 3% chance of a hip fracture to a 4% chance. Which is a 33% increase, but still. I imagine if you weighed up the health benefits of a vegetarian diet vs a meat eating diet the benefits would still be enormous, despite the slight increase in risk of breaking your hip I agree with the part of your post about meat diet having more benefits definitely. I sometimes look at the vegan stuff just to see whats in it and its full of stuff like GMO which isnt really good for our bodies.im sure someone vegan can educate us better as thats their way of life but i definitely prefer meat to vegan stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 12, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I agree with the part of your post about meat diet having more benefits definitely. I sometimes look at the vegan stuff just to see whats in it and its full of stuff like GMO which isnt really good for our bodies.im sure someone vegan can educate us better as thats their way of life but i definitely prefer meat to vegan stuff. I didn't say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: I didn't say that I though the benefits being enourmous suggested that Edited August 12, 2022 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 12, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I though the benefits being enourmous suggested that The benefits of a vegetarian diet vs a meat eating diet are enormous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: The benefits of a vegetarian diet vs a meat eating diet are enormous I think both have pros and cons to be honest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: I think both have pros and cons to be honest When weighing up whether to have a bottle of whiskey a day, there are pros and cons on each side. It doesn't mean they're balanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: The benefits of a vegetarian diet vs a meat eating diet are enormous Would that be true though if the meat diet only consisted of fresh poultry and fish? Seems like red or processed meat is the bad stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Would that be true though if the meat diet only consisted of fresh poultry and fish? Seems like red or processed meat is the bad stuff. Fish in particular is hugely beneficial. (Edit: Should say "oily fish") Edited August 12, 2022 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: The benefits of a vegetarian diet vs a meat eating diet are enormous I could be being pedantic and maybe its only me that would live on a diet of French fries , Donuts and cakes ..but technically if I did I would be vegetarian ..and I'd also have dangerously high LDL levels due to the amount of trans fat they contain , so i guess you would have to qualify the statement and say some vegetarian diets but , that aside I don't' think your statement is necessarily true , not least because a few posts above there is a story saying vegetarian women are are higher risk of bone fractures due to lower intakes of nutrients linked with bone and muscle health. Anyhows , I'm sure people know which side of the debate I'm on ... but I agree there are some benefits to being vegetarians, but with diet there is no one size fits all option ... the benefits for you might be enormous , but for me the benefits of being a meat eater are enormous , (not least because on the occasions when I've increased my vegetable levels I've invariably ended up on a drip in hospital !! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 12, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: not least because on the occasions when I've increased my vegetable levels I've invariably ended up on a drip in hospital !! You've mentioned this before, and I find it intriguing, as yours is literally the only case I've ever heard of with this reaction. Have you been diagnosed with anything specific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 12, 2022 Moderator Share Posted August 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, mjmooney said: You've mentioned this before, and I find it intriguing, as yours is literally the only case I've ever heard of with this reaction. Have you been diagnosed with anything specific? Shandyitis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Looks like someone has tried to carry out that fatwa against Salman Rushdie. Been attacked on stage in NY and possibly stabbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 12, 2022 Moderator Share Posted August 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, sne said: Looks like someone has tried to carry out that fatwa against Salman Rushdie. Been attacked on stage in NY and possibly stabbed. Could be anyone who'd ever read one of his books to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 minute ago, bickster said: Could be anyone who'd every read one of his books to be fair That good eh? Not read any of them myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 12, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, sne said: That good eh? Not read any of them myself. They're great, don't listen to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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