Ratings & Reactions: Villa v Man United

[sheepyvillian]

Just now, StefanAVFC said:

See, this is the issue with hope. 
 

after city and arsenal, I only saw us extending our home win record and look how it turned out 

huge few weeks coming up 

Come on now, Stef, anything but the "hope" cliche.

[nick76]

34 minutes ago, DJBOB said:

We keep conceding the same goals because we have the same shit defenders. It’s very straightforward. 

Yeah

Our fourth and fifth choice centre backs were playing.  How many top teams could afford to lose three of their first choice centre backs?  

It’s very straight forward as well, we can’t change to other CB’s back to their original point because we are down to our last two CB’s.  

Liverpool lose VVD they end up having problems, Arsenal lost Saliba and lost the title last season…we’ve lost three…not one or two but our first three CB’s.  

How often do teams have to play their fourth and fifth CB?

Its not an excuse it’s a very valid reason that they aren’t as good as the CB’s that are injured…it’s that straight forward.

Edited February 11 by nick76

[danceoftheshamen]

Shows how the Football World has changed when I feel genuinely embarrassed to have that lot do the double over us.

How you can get a defeat out of that game is beyond ridiculous. Our defence is the issue however & was the reason I thought we would lose the game prior to KO.

We are not good enough squad wise to withstand injuries to Konsa, Torres, Digne & Mings. Both goals were down to the replacements. Despite this we should still have won that game but you cannot be so porous at the back whilst missing absolute sitters at the other end against any Premier League team & expect to win. 

[Rugeley Villa]

57 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Why can’t we all boo when the opposition has the ball. It puts them off! I tried today but nobody joined in.

Yep like we used to years ago 

[maqroll]

Perhaps now that our great expectations for this team are cratering, the team might start feeling less pressure to meet our great expectations (and those of pundits, et al), and start winning again. 

The players and manager need us now more than ever. We can still qualify for the CL and we can still win a trophy. 

Don't let this bad run of results dampen our spirit. 

We can recover from this wobble.

[nick76]

41 minutes ago, ozvilla28 said:

What is Pau on the bench for then last 2 games if his not fit ?

I assume because he’s not fit enough for 90 minutes or maybe even a lot less and is only there in case a serious injury to either Carlos or Lenglet, which is our luck at the moment.  I’m guessing the medical staff and Emery don’t want to use him unless desperation but sometimes needs must.  You only have to look at JJ coming back too early before Xmas which set him back, Olise at Palace who then got injured within 5 minutes and now out for months…

[ozvillafan]

Sometimes I wake up and I forget: We are Villa. We can't have nice things.

3 things I learned:

• If we want to win at home, we really need to score first
• Nobody engages Martinez when he stands on the ball. Seeing as we were behind - what's the point?
• 23 shots, 10 on target and 1 goal. Our finishing cost us.

[ozvillafan]

1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said:

For those that watched on TV and have seen replays, how bad was this challenge, it was a good fifty yards from me but my first thought was that Fernandes could go off for it, I then thought probably not as this ref would bottle that and just give him a yellow - I should have realised there was more chance of him giving him a hand job and he settled for a nice chat. Anyways, was it a potential red? It looked two footed, off the ground and out of control.

It looked bad and he lunged, but not enough for a red. A yellow? Yep.

More concerning, though, was when Maguire had McGinn bailed up on the sideline. All over him, but McGinn turns and is away - despite Maguire literally grabbing both arms to haul him back.

Ref gives a free kick (advantage would have been better - McGinn was filthy at the decision!) and a stern talking to.

Laughable.

[juanpablosaliceband]

44 minutes ago, chips'ngravy said:

Disagree with Emery when he said we controlled the transition. I thought that was where we were at our most vulnerable. 17 shots from them seems evidence enough that we got caught time and again.

Also, is it me or has the meticulous line drawing for offsides suddenly disappeared? I thought there was a chance their winner might be chalked off when the ball was played through to Mainoo (I think) who then knocked it back for Dalot to cross. 

I thought that pass to Mainoo was definitely offside. No mention of it and whether VAR checked it. 

[Vive_La_Villa]

7 minutes ago, ozvillafan said:

It looked bad and he lunged, but not enough for a red. A yellow? Yep.

More concerning, though, was when Maguire had McGinn bailed up on the sideline. All over him, but McGinn turns and is away - despite Maguire literally grabbing both arms to haul him back.

Ref gives a free kick (advantage would have been better - McGinn was filthy at the decision!) and a stern talking to.

Laughable.

It’s a farce. 

[TheStagMan]

I was going to come on here and say I fecking hate United. And I do, but after reading this thread I am starting to hate Villa fans as well. Fecking hell lads, get a grip of yourselves. 

"Tailspin", "Blown it", "Season over" etc etc. Go and give your heads a wobble. 

 

Yes we have had some bad results recently and a couple of bad performances. Today was not a bad performance, and we were the better team for most of the game. Unai has built up a lot of credit in the bank and I have no doubt he will sort this out. 

[tommytenjobs]

Just got back from the match. Long drive. 

Just wanted to say how well I think we played today. Cut through them time and time again. Some great chances missed. Some poor decisions made and some ludicrous luck from their gk kept them in it. 

Pau plays...we win that

Konsa plays....we win that

Diaby on form...we win that 

Bit of luck, better referee, loads of other minor things too.....we win that. 

Only way utd were winning that is a flukey smash and grab from their only two chances. How many years have we been waiting for us to dominate utd and deserve to beat them?? Only directions for both clubs is clear for all to see. 

Yes we didn't win.....but I was proud of the team today. Set up was right. Team spirit was right and mcginn's interview after.....class again. 

I have more faith in getting 4th or 5th after that loss, that I did after the shef utd 5.0. 

Bring on the next game.

 

Couvbs 

 

Edited February 11 by tommytenjobs

[JPJCB]

26 minutes ago, ozvillafan said:

It looked bad and he lunged, but not enough for a red. A yellow? Yep.

More concerning, though, was when Maguire had McGinn bailed up on the sideline. All over him, but McGinn turns and is away - despite Maguire literally grabbing both arms to haul him back.

Ref gives a free kick (advantage would have been better - McGinn was filthy at the decision!) and a stern talking to.

Laughable.

The worst one was Kamara being fouled about 5 times on the edge of their area, having the dignity to stay on his feet, and then getting nothing when he finally went down on the 6th attempt 

[Vive_La_Villa]

We lost the battle( game) but we’ll win the war (top4). As @sheepyvillian said. VTID!

We got this.

[carlitobrigante]

So so depressing, carbon copy almost of that MON season, looking nailed on for top 4, a real chance for a huge catapult to getting back to the big time, and then a mixture of players folding under pressure and terrible January transfer window has meant its all crumbling into dust..

We were crying out for solid dependable reinforcements at CB and at CM in January, instead we mess about signing youth prospects..

We basically staked everything on Luiz and Kamara being fit and on form in every game to have a midfield that can compete, and we staked everything on Watkins being fit and not having his usual long periods of misfiring in front of goal, both have come back to bite us

And now it could be another 20 odd years till we could find ourselves in a similar position.

Emery disappointed me today. We had United rocking, the crowd was fired up, the players were fired up.....and all Emery did on the touchline was try to calm and quieten us down

I'm trying not to overreact, but its hard not to

[Galway Lion]

1 hour ago, Kingman said:

Jesus wept, We have some knob head fans don't we. 

100% Jesus Christ think back even two years!!! Trolls and pricks 

[markavfc40]

Crikey 20 people have voted the managers performance as poor or very poor. I assume therefore those supporters feel the manager picked completely the wrong team/got the tactics completely wrong/didn't have the players fired up or motivated. Amazing really how we somehow in the main dominated and outplayed the team currently 6th in the premier league. 

Where we did on occasion look vulnerable today, defensively, which ultimately cost us, it is probably worth factoring in that we are currently playing our 4th and 5th best centre backs.

Seriously if we have supporters who think that performance warrants giving the manager a very poor/poor rating you either have very, very, very short memories and have forgotten what poor management looks like or have just started following us in which case if you stick around long enough you'll eventually come to realise what poor management really looks like.

 

 

[VillaChris]

1 hour ago, juanpablosaliceband said:

I thought that pass to Mainoo was definitely offside. No mention of it and whether VAR checked it. 

Was level with Luiz.

Edited February 11 by VillaChris

[VillaChris]

MOTM missing out endless chances from us and including Man. United toe pokes straight at Emi.

I wanted to see that Diaby chance again but they didn't even show it.

[foreveryoung]

You know it's not gonna be your day when Maguire also has his best game for seasons.