OutByEaster? Posted December 1, 2023 Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Great write up although it was written last night and just wondering if any of the bit in bold has since been substantiated? The Lower Grounds thing came to me direct from someone who was in there - a small group tried to force their way in but were then kept out/removed by the police I'm told. It looks like Legia fans (maybe the group that were throwing stuff into the Holte End) were trying to find a way to break into the stadium, and from what I've read this morning some succeeded at the North Stand via the players car park area (?) During the game, for staff leaving Villa Park (kiosk staff leave after half time) the police were trying to establish safe routes for them away from the ground and communicating with the people in charge on their safe release, but I'm told a couple were accosted as they left. The other stuff is largely bits I picked up from twitter and so on, the police reported injuries to about a dozen people that weren't police offices or Legia fans, but where and how those occurred isn't clear. There's a report on twitter by someone who seemed reasonably reliable about a mother with kids being pushed over (with the standard twitter caveat) and there were cars around the away car park that were damaged (although that could simply be accidental given how much stuff was being thrown around down there). Thankfully it appears the rumours of a stabbing were definitely false. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugeley Villa Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 I’m not promoting trouble here but there’s been a couple of comments I’ve noticed where some have praised the police for protecting Villa fans. Ffs we are at home with best part of 40k fans there surely we can look after ourselves at home . **** this police protection off. 2 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedge Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Demitri_C said: @wedge warned us before hand what these lot were like I'm not going to gloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brumstopdogs Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: I’m not promoting trouble here but there’s been a couple of comments I’ve noticed where some have praised the police for protecting Villa fans. Ffs we are at home with best part of 40k fans there surely we can look after ourselves at home . **** this police protection off. Can't agree with that - two wrongs don't make a right. Just because a section of their fans behave like animals doesn't mean we should retaliate in kind. That is a Small Heath attitude and I'd like to think we were better than that! 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugeley Villa Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Brumstopdogs said: Can't agree with that - two wrongs don't make a right. Just because a section of their fans behave like animals doesn't mean we should retaliate in kind. That is a Small Heath attitude and I'd like to think we were better than that! That’s my attitude towards it. I wish some of our lot would have retaliated and gave it them. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wainy316 Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: That’s my attitude towards it. I wish some of our lot would have retaliated and gave it them. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paddywhack Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, Rugeley Villa said: That’s my attitude towards it. I wish some of our lot would have retaliated and gave it them. Nah, that's what they wanted, why would we lower ourselves to their caveman standards? We were watching our team beat theirs, whilst they were stuck outside playing with condiments. Perfect. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: I’m not promoting trouble here 8 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: That’s my attitude towards it. I wish some of our lot would have retaliated and gave it them. Make your mind up man. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: Make your mind up man. Yeah I knew what I did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2023 53 minutes ago, Davkaus said: They should be seeing some serious sanctions, but it wasn't exactly the Heysel disaster. Avoiding a Heysel disaster is the name of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted December 1, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Make your mind up man. One of these 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stewiek2 Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Based on what I've seen and read afterwards, the police did a good job of preventing something much much worse. A lot of them wouldn't have seen anything like that before, no training exercise could prepare them for that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, sidcow said: One of these Not at all there’s just a lot of tribalism still in me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 The announcement by Villa is interesting the conduct of both the club and the supporters. The club is not addressing the hooligan element, in fact it seems in cahoots with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Rugeley Villa said: I’m not promoting trouble here but there’s been a couple of comments I’ve noticed where some have praised the police for protecting Villa fans. Ffs we are at home with best part of 40k fans there surely we can look after ourselves at home . **** this police protection off. Sad comment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Wainy316 said: You absolute mug! I'd have opened them up like a tin of bins if I was there last night. Oi soppy bollocks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, smg said: Sad comment. Each to their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, rodders0223 said: You absolute mug! I'd have opened them up like a tin of bins if I was there last night. Oi soppy bollocks! Police protection at home? Come on man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 42 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: Very scathing, especially the quotes from Heck. It's one thing when you have 'ultras' causing trouble, but for Legia's officials to not just be condoning this sort of stuff but clearly inciting it is something else entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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