Stevo985 Posted November 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2023 On 14/11/2023 at 23:01, OutByEaster? said: jeepers - according to the BBC's Football news show (a good watch if you've got fifteen minutes), Unai Emery watched twenty-seven Legia Warsaw games before we played them in the away leg. Twenty-seven full games. And we still lost Unai out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I think definite starters against Bournemouth (injuries permitting) are Martinez, Konsa, Pau, Digne, McGinn, Luiz, Tielemans and Watkins, so that's 8 players I'd rest for this one (well 7 because we have to start with Emi). So on that basis, giving us enough to win (hopefully) and managing the squad, I think something like; Martinez Cash Carlos Lenglet Moreno Bailey Kamara Iroegbunam Ramsey Diaby Duran Hopefully get a good hour from Moreno and Ramsey and Diaby can play is way into a bit of form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) I believe if we win by 2 goals, it goes to head to head record for top of the group. ie if we've 4-3 on aggregate over the two ties with Legia and tied on point we're top. I think it even goes to away goals in tied teams. So if we win 1-0 or 2-1 or by 2 goals we're top of group with a game left Edited November 27, 2023 by CVByrne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 16 hours ago, Spoony said: I’m not. Kind of a fool me twice situation. We’ve only turned up to one conference game. These barely feel like competitive fixtures to me now because of how we have been treating them. We'll take this one very seriously. 2 goal win and we win the group on the night so can send the Tea lady and Jack Woodward to play in Bosnia if we so wish. And anyone else wanting a go! I assume if we win 3-2 we should be o.k aswell with GD due to the big win in Alkmaar. If the players want a free midweek between the Arsenal and Brentford games they play well in this. If not they go off to play in Bosnia in the midweek between those two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Villa owe these, hopefully that early defeat galvanises us to get a good win. Hopefully a good game this one, looking forward to it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, WakefieldVillan said: I think definite starters against Bournemouth (injuries permitting) are Martinez, Konsa, Pau, Digne, McGinn, Luiz, Tielemans and Watkins, so that's 8 players I'd rest for this one (well 7 because we have to start with Emi). So on that basis, giving us enough to win (hopefully) and managing the squad, I think something like; Martinez Cash Carlos Lenglet Moreno Bailey Kamara Iroegbunam Ramsey Diaby Duran Hopefully get a good hour from Moreno and Ramsey and Diaby can play is way into a bit of form. I'd go with Martinez Cash Carlos Lenglet Moreno Bailey Tielemans Luiz Zaniolo Diaby Watkins Digne on for Moreno at half time. Duran on for Watkins on 60 mins. Luiz for Dendonker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Points obtained in group matches played among teams in question Superior goal difference from group matches played among teams in question Goals scored in group matches played among teams in question Criteria 1-3 reapplied exclusively to the matches between the remaining teams Superior goal difference in all group matches Goals scored in all group matches Away goals scored in all group matches Wins in all group matches Away wins in all group matches Disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I think the club is asking for fans to get to the game a bit earlier than normal if you can, as getting in is taking longer than a usual league game due to all of the individual tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Gonna be a cold one, right around freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 46 minutes ago, Django_Zooms said: Points obtained in group matches played among teams in question Superior goal difference from group matches played among teams in question Goals scored in group matches played among teams in question Criteria 1-3 reapplied exclusively to the matches between the remaining teams Superior goal difference in all group matches Goals scored in all group matches Away goals scored in all group matches Wins in all group matches Away wins in all group matches Disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards Thanks so a win means we're mathematically top unless we win 3-2 or 4-3 etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: Gonna be a cold one, right around freezing. Annual outing for my down-filled jacket, for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: Thanks so a win means we're mathematically top unless we win 3-2 or 4-3 etc.. If Villa better the 3-2 from the away tie e.g. 4-3 or 2-0 they will finish top. If they won otherwise e.g. 1-0, the final group matches would decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 7 hours ago, WakefieldVillan said: I think definite starters against Bournemouth (injuries permitting) are Martinez, Konsa, Pau, Digne, McGinn, Luiz, Tielemans and Watkins, so that's 8 players I'd rest for this one (well 7 because we have to start with Emi). So on that basis, giving us enough to win (hopefully) and managing the squad, I think something like; Martinez Cash Carlos Lenglet Moreno Bailey Kamara Iroegbunam Ramsey Diaby Duran Hopefully get a good hour from Moreno and Ramsey and Diaby can play is way into a bit of form. I'd be really surprised to see Tim and Ramsey start. Would hope to see both play a bit In the game. A win here means we can basically send kids to Bosnia and then not touch the conference league until Feb or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 That first game hurt we need to correct that. I hope we take it seriously. This wont be a easy one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedge Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 9 hours ago, The_Rev said: There's a large Polish diaspora in the West Midlands, I suspect a lot of them will be Legia fans and will just go to hang around with their people in town anyway. I know if I lived somewhere in Europe and Villa were coming to town I'd go find the Villa fans before kick off regardless of whether I had a ticket or not. Apologies, reading the post of mine you have quoted again it reads as if I'm saying any Legia fans who come to town ticketless should get a kicking it was meant to be two separate points which I articulated poorly, as that is absolutely not what I think! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: I think the club is asking for fans to get to the game a bit earlier than normal if you can, as getting in is taking longer than a usual league game due to all of the individual tickets. Well arriving at ground 30 mins before kickoff wasn't enough v AZ, was still late getting in. I'm aiming for as early as I can to this one cos I hate missing kick off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Django_Zooms said: If Villa better the 3-2 from the away tie e.g. 4-3 or 2-0 they will finish top. If they won otherwise e.g. 1-0, the final group matches would decide. In practice, if we win then obviously all we would need is a point in Mostar and/or AZ to take something from their game against Legia. Of course it would be nice to *definitively* end the group on Thursday but a win puts us in an excellent position even if it's only 1-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedge Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 53 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: That first game hurt we need to correct that. I hope we take it seriously. This wont be a easy one Agreed, I want us to batter them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Depending on fitness, I think this would be logical: ---------------Martinez---------------------- -Cash--Carlos--Lenglet--Moreno- -Bailey--Kamara--Tielemans--Ramsey- -------------Zaniolo--Duran------------- If Moreno isn't fit, then whoever out of Digne or Torres; if Ramsey isn't fit, then put Zaniolo there and play Diaby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I really think this match will come to define the season: need to see that we've learned from the first tie against Legia; can handle the pressure of needing to top the group; and take the good league form into this competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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