MrBlack Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Don_Simon said: There are nine other Villa players on the pitch. They're the only two that play up front and in goal (respectively). I guess anyone can score, but only Olsen can make a save. Olsen also has to play short accurate balls into our defenders/defensive midfielders, something he's shown he's far from reliable at. If he doesn't make a hospital pass I'll be pretty surprised. Martinez isn't immune to them, but it's a far more rare occurrence from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, MrBlack said: They're the only two that play up front and in goal (respectively). I guess anyone can score, but only Olsen can make a save. Olsen also has to play short accurate balls into our defenders/defensive midfielders, something he's shown he's far from reliable at. If he doesn't make a hospital pass I'll be pretty surprised. Martinez isn't immune to them, but it's a far more rare occurrence from him. Haven't a few of the Olsen goals conceded been with Dendoncker involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunther Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) Well, I don't think a single villa fan would have guessed that lineup. Konsa paired with Lenglet instead of Carlos, Luiz and McGinn both starting and no Watkins even on the bench, all seems wild. Certainly didn't expect Olsen. But, manager has earned our trust and then some. Edited November 30, 2023 by blunther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: You do this all the time. It's boring As boring as your pointless posts that add nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Ollie may have caught this bloody bug thing that's doing the round. I've had it 2 weeks now, know people who've had it 4 weeks. Just when you think it's shifted the bastard coughing shit up off your chest comes back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, duke313 said: Duran has already scored against Warsaw? You don’t think he can again? Just me who sung this to the tune of wild boys? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Kiwivillan said: Haven't a few of the Olsen goals conceded been with Dendoncker involved? You make a good point. I think maybe one was Kamara involved. I think the ball in all cases has been poor, but Donk doesn't have the ability of Luiz or Kamara to get out of jail, so probably does exacerbate the issue. Looking at the positives... that midfield looks very strong. The defence too. If we get the good Duran we could score plenty. But early concerns brought on my volume of changes and key positions have won my brain at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Controlling the game will be done from midfield. I would guess that it is one of the strongest midfield line ups we have ever put on a pitch, under Emery or anyone else. Hope there is no issue for Ollie. Sorry pray . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Paul33 said: Nothing makes me laugh more than Villa fans putting down Olsen when the same critics say diddly squat when Emi gets it wrong. Olsen is not only an international class keeper but he is OUR keeper and deserves backing because if Emi gets injured, he becomes pretty important to us so give him a break and support the lad ! Nothing makes me laugh more when people say emi never gets criticised for mistakes when he clearly does get criticised Difference is emi wins us gamss like sunday. Its not like ive said boo the lad obviously we all gonna get behind him. Anyone who says they are not worried without emi and watkins in the team is lying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MrBlack said: I agree he deserves backing and in person should get that.... but online in a forum, where he won't see it, I'll reserve my right to be terrified of his ability to play the game Emery wants us to play. I agree and I respect the rights of all to express opinions but my feeling with Olsen is that some fans see him as having horns sticking out of his head and no matter how he plays and no matter what he does, he is declared as being poor. He is a very, very good stopper. He's agile and he is strong in the air too. Where he used to be weak was whenever the ball was at his feet but - to my eyes - he has improved significantly in that area. Not being as good as Emi does not make you a bad keeper ..... if you want a real bed pan of a nettie then take a look at what lurks at Old Trafford ...... Newton Heath fans would kill for Olsen over Banana !!! Edited November 30, 2023 by Paul33 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Maybe Watkins and Emi have asked for a total rest? Both have played a lot of football recently, including intl travel, and Emery has been obliging this week with all the Premier League football coming up over the next few weeks. I'm just guessing, but in my opinion it seems likely. On paper these are the lowest quality team we'll play for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Olsen or no Olsen. This team should be beating the 6th place team in the Polish league. If they can’t then we don’t deserve to win the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Watkins is injured or ill if he's out the squad. Emi had a knock over the Int break where he was touch and go for Spurs, possible they don't want to risk making a minor injury worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2023 Relax guys, Ollie is being rested. Guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, HKP90 said: Relax guys, Ollie is being rested. Guarantee it. I think he would have at least made the bench Hopefully just a lil cold snd not a injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2023 Kicking off in the away coach park apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Paul33 said: Nothing makes me laugh more than Villa fans putting down Olsen when the same critics say diddly squat when Emi gets it wrong. Don’t know how you can write this without laughing. Emi makes mistakes, of course, but 99% of the time he’s world class for us as he showed again against Spurs. Olsen makes mistakes and generally makes more, he’s an average level PL keeper who makes poor decisions occasionally but generally impactful errors. It’s a disingenuous argument. 15 minutes ago, Paul33 said: Olsen is not only an international class keeper and? and I would say he’s an ‘international keeper’, I’m not sure what the ‘class’ refers to because internationals levels are all over the place in terms of quality given the strengths of international teams. Would he get into England, Spain, France squads….of course not….would he get into Malta, Faroe Islands or Ireland squads…of course…saying international class means nothing. 19 minutes ago, Paul33 said: but he is OUR keeper and deserves backing because if Emi gets injured, he becomes pretty important to us so give him a break and support the lad ! and we all do at the ground when he’s playing but outside of that it’s ok to question him especially in forums. If you aren’t nervous when he plays then we are watching very different games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 How far do I have to go back here to read how great it is to see MORENO back! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: As boring as your pointless posts that add nothing I'm not frequently excessively negative 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Paul33 said: I agree and I respect the rights of all to express opinions but my feeling with Olsen is that some fans see him as having horns sticking out of his head and no matter how he plays and no matter what he does, he is declared as being poor. He is a very, very good stopper. He's agile and he is strong in the air too. Where he used to be weak was whenever the ball was at his feet but - to my eyes - he has improved significantly in that area. Not being as good as Emi does not make you a bad keeper ..... if you want a real bed pan of a nettie then take a look at what lurks at Old Trafford ...... Newton Heath fans would kill for Olsen over Banana !!! Onana has always been hapless, I'm not sure what United thought they were buying, but he's made howlers like that regularly for his whole career. He nakes up for it with the occasional world class save and decent, if a little risky, distribution. I'm not sure Olsen brings quite as much to compensate for his mistakes, but you are right that he has improved a bit. Even Martinez's distribution has improved massively. Its like he's a different goalkeeper to the one at the start of Emery's tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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