fruitvilla Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I've seen Mr Peterson a couple of times on things - I find him disagreeable. For God's sake don't read Jung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, fruitvilla said: For God's sake don't read Jung. Neil Jung? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Peterson ... I find he gets some things right and some things wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 He's a prick, but an articulate prick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 46 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: I think you’re asking for perfection there, he’s not Jesus Christ Not really. Surely you don't have to be Jesus to just be kind to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Not really. Surely you don't have to be Jesus to just be kind to people. Is he not kind ? Ok he has his views but I certainly wouldn’t have him down as this horrible person . Now Andrew Tate I’m less forgiving on , but I think Mr Peterson is a good man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 30 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: He's a prick, but an articulate prick. The best kind of pricks then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Jordan Peterson is a bit like religion in that it mixes up lots of good, sensible advice with lots of insanity. For some people that can be very valuable if they focus mainly on the good advice, and I think that’s why he has so many disciples. Generally it’s good to be sceptical of people who seem to have answers for everything, especially when their own lives are chaotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 18, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 He's not a good man. He views everything in life as a battle that must be won, which just makes his outlook horrific and makes him a bellend. That you then elaborate that out into his basically just being a Christian conservative who tries to market himself as not a Christian conservative makes him worse. He treats a section of society as lesser, believes in loads of shit that basically exists to accommodate bad masculine behaviours and treat them as virtues... and so on. He's not a good person. He's Christian conservative with a verbosity problem who kicks out at anything he dislikes with cruel abandon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 It's crazy how much he sounds like Kermit the frog. Uncanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 33 minutes ago, Chindie said: He's Christian conservative I think you are wrong .... The answer is complicated. I suspect he is more in the tradition of Joseph Campbell. Is he conservative ... on some things perhaps eg grievance studies etc. On the other hand, he thinks of himself as classically British liberal from a philosophical point of view at least. He is middle of the road from my perspective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I read the title as "How dense Jordan Pickford is" I thought, fair enough, it needs to be asked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, Xela said: I read the title as "How dense Jordan Pickford is" I thought, fair enough, it needs to be asked. Not as dense as Jordan Peterson by all accounts and definitely not as evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 51 minutes ago, Chindie said: He's not a good man. He views everything in life as a battle that must be won, which just makes his outlook horrific and makes him a bellend. That you then elaborate that out into his basically just being a Christian conservative who tries to market himself as not a Christian conservative makes him worse. He treats a section of society as lesser, believes in loads of shit that basically exists to accommodate bad masculine behaviours and treat them as virtues... and so on. He's not a good person. He's Christian conservative with a verbosity problem who kicks out at anything he dislikes with cruel abandon. Is every Christian conservative not a good person then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Is every Christian conservative not a good person then? Men like this lead them down the garden path. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) When I first encountered him I found him to be contentious almost for the sake of it, but now I see him as a very sincere man trying his utmost to spark awareness in a world that's losing touch. Oftentimes he speaks with more authority on matters than I think he should because while I appreciate his concerns and intent is from a heart that wants to contribute in a meaningful way, I don't think he's entirely across all the answers of the matters he speaks on. Which is great!! We learn by engaging what we don't know and seeing if we can't bring about greater understanding of what's true. Sitting on our hands and letting the experts and specialists do it for us is a sure way to see that society's skilled people become lesser available. Edited September 18, 2023 by A'Villan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted September 18, 2023 Moderator Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 hours ago, fruitvilla said: For God's sake don't read Jung. i've read jung, i'm not sure i'd put the two in the same box. Peterson doesn't bother me much, the things i heard weren't stuff i particularly agreed with - that doesn't make him an extremest of some kind, i don't agree with a lot of people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, OutByEaster? said: i don't agree with a lot of people. I agree with you 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, A'Villan said: Oftentimes he speaks with more authority on matters We need more agnosticism! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted September 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, fruitvilla said: On the other hand, he thinks of himself as classically British liberal from a philosophical point of view at least. Funny how he can think himself to be something he’s not (we judge him by his actions rather than his opinion of himself) but doesn't believe others should be allowed to be who they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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