Popular Post DCJonah Posted July 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2023 10 hours ago, The_Steve said: Pfft. It hardly takes a genius to deduct that Romano is only as good as what agents leak to him. He's not a journalist in the traditional sense. All the journalists who are respected are only as good as what agents or clubs leak to them. Do you think Percy is doing deep investigative journalism to get the scoop? Or Ornstein is meeting people in car parks to be passed brown envelopes full of leaked info? 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted July 4, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2023 Is it going to be Torres Tuesday?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villan-scott Posted July 4, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2023 Good old cheery Gregg at it again Quote Pau Torres: Is Aston Villa signing the defender really the coup it appears? Perhaps the most exciting aspect of Pau Torres’ imminent arrival at Aston Villa is his reunion with their head coach, Unai Emery. Torres, the 26-year-old centre-half who is leaving Villarreal for the ambitious project underway at Villa Park, was a star at his hometown club and, in particular, during Emery’s time captaining the Yellow Submarine, as the La Liga club are known because of the colour of their kit. It was on Villarreal’s journey towards winning the Europa League in 2021 and then to the semi-finals of the Champions League the following year that Torres’ stock rose considerably. He became one of the most talked-about defenders across the European game, with almost every top club taking an interest. The €50million (£43m; $54.5m) release clause in his contract, due to expire in the summer of 2024, was put there to protect the Villarreal for the day when one of the big boys came calling. Bayern Munich recently weighed up a move for him, just like Manchester City, Real Madrid, Barcelona and many more had done previously, only for each to ultimately look elsewhere for a defender. The expectation at Villarreal was that Torres would still move to a top Champions League club for the maximum price. But no firm offers materialised other than the one from Villa (who can offer no better this season than a two-leg play-off in late August to decide who qualifies for the third-tier Europa Conference League), where he is due to have a medical this week. Emery, with the support of Villa co-owner Nassef Sawiris and recently-arrived president of football operations, Monchi, was even able to drive the price down to an initial €32.5million with a further €5m of performance-related add-ons included. So, is this the coup it appears at first glance? And how have Villa, who finished seventh in the Premier League last season, managed to lure away one of the leading lights of the fifth-best club in La Liga? The answer to the second question is easier: Emery. Villa’s head coach knows exactly how good Torres is and was able to look beyond the perceived weaknesses — concerning his physicality and lack of aggression — which appear to have put other clubs off. Emery also knows how receptive Torres is to his coaching methods. That should help the player settle into his new surroundings in England and get up to speed with the demands of the Villa staff and the Premier League quickly. After his impressive debut season in charge, Emery is the person with the most power at the club other than co-owners Sawiris and Wes Edens, and he was granted spending assurances when appointed last November. So if the initial outlay on a fourth centre-back looks steep, it is because Torres was a target — albeit an ambitious one — right from the start. Losing his place in the Spain squad has not provoked any doubts, either. Torres was an unused substitute for the first two games at the World Cup last year before starting the group-stage finale, which Spain lost 2-1 to Japan. Since then, with Luis Enrique stepping down after the tournament and Luis de la Fuente taking over as coach, he has not made a squad. Yet Torres could look at Tyrone Mings, his soon-to-be team-mate, as cause for optimism. Mings had slipped out of the England setup by the time Emery succeeded Steven Gerrard just before the World Cup break began. The new head coach duly simplified his role so that, instead of “doing other people’s jobs”, as Mings put it, he stayed in a specified area of the pitch on the left side of defence and stuck purely to his defensive duties. He returned to form and Gareth Southgate’s national squad. Emery issues instructions to Torres in August 2021 (Photo: Niall Carson/PA Images via Getty Images) Torres’ arrival will certainly strengthen the defensive unit at Villa and create stronger competition for places. Mings, 30, and Ezri Konsa, 25, performed admirably in the second half of last season, demonstrating they are reliable performers but also tactically intelligent enough to take on new instruction. They kept newcomer Diego Carlos, who returned in late March after a lengthy period recovering from an early-season Achilles injury, out of the team over the run-in. As a result, the jury is still out on the 30-year-old Brazilian. Calum Chambers, 28, still offers cover but may now look for more regular game time elsewhere, while 19-year-old defender Seb Revan is close to securing a loan move to a League Two club. The reality is, for the second successive summer, Villa have signed an expensive, Europa League-winning centre-half from a club in Spain who will arrive expecting to start matches. Torres’ first task, though, will be to show he is better than those centre-backs already at the club. Pre-season will give Emery and his coaching team a better idea of the strongest pairing from four players competing for two places in the team. The much-discussed option of moving Konsa across to right-back, fulfilling a role similar to that undertaken by Juan Foyth at Villarreal under Emery, may be explored. Most likely, though, is a regular mixing up of the centre-back pairings as Villa’s fixture list expands with participation in (they hope) the Conference League group stage and potentially a deeper run in domestic cup football after early exits from both last time. What will be more important for Villa will be finding the right balance. Can Mings and Torres play together as two left-footers? Perhaps the modern attacking formations, where inverted wide players regularly switch sides, removes the traditional logic of matching up players in such a way? Realistically, defenders, who typically are less agile than forwards, always prefer to position their bodies with the weight on their stronger foot. If Emery does move Mings or Torres away from their favoured left side it may be disruptive, or at least require time to adjust. What is clear about Torres is the emphasis Emery places on playing out from the back. Last season, Torres averaged 3.4 progressive carries per game — the most of any centre-back in La Liga. And as the map below shows, he is comfortable moving the ball forward large distances — his average carry distance of 6.7 metres last season was bettered only by Villarreal team-mate Raul Albiol among centre-backs in Spain’s top division. The way he breaks the lines in the opposition set-up is also one of his greatest strengths. Last season, Torres was behind only Eric Garcia, Andreas Christensen, Marcos Alonso (all of Barcelona) and Yeray Alvarez (Athletic Bilbao) when it came to progressive passing. On the defensive side of things, no La Liga centre-back made fewer than his 0.38 interceptions per game, a stat which shows he doesn’t tend to step out very often, while his aerial duel win rate of 55.1 per cent was among the worst in his position in the division. However, he does win the ball back for his team a lot (5.7 per game — which placed him among the top 20 of the 66 La Liga centre-backs to play 900-plus minutes last season) and makes plenty of blocks and clearances. He also has a good true-tackle win rate — a player’s win rate among all tackles attempted, fouls committed and challenges lost — of 65.2 per cent, which also places him in the top 20 among his positional peers. So while not a front-foot defender, Torres is often in the right place at the right time to tidy up those threatening moments. Leaving home permanently for the first time will bring challenges for Torres, but having a Spanish-speaking coaching team he is familiar with will surely help the adjustment process. Villa’s player-care department, fronted by Phil Roscoe, also tries to help new arrivals settle in, first through an induction to the club and with regular support thereafter. Carlos and Alex Moreno needed time to adapt to new surroundings last season having left Spain without speaking much English, and it will be the same for recently married Torres. What may help is that he is the 10th Spanish player Villa have signed. The hope is he becomes more of a Carlos Cuellar than a Jose Angel Crespo. Emery appears to have no doubts he will shine. If all goes to plan, by the end of this week he will have his man 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 56 minutes ago, villan-scott said: Good old cheery Gregg at it again Quote So, is this the coup it appears at first glance? You didn't answer your own question Gregg. I'm glad someone pasted the article here beyond your joke of a pay wall when it comes to villa articles. But let me tell you...yes, it is. Whether he delivers to the expectation or not, its absolutely a coup and a sign to anyone else that we're interested in that we're a better option than a lot of champions league clubs 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, villan-scott said: Carlos and Alex Moreno needed time to adapt to new surroundings last season having left Spain without speaking much English, What? Moreno took about a game and a half to get up to speed... (Quoting Evans here of course, not @villan-scott) 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PieFacE Posted July 4, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2023 Not really seeing too much wrong in that Gregg Evans article tbh. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Can’t believe we signed Torres to replace Dendoncker, cheers Gregg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyVillans Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 "The hope is he becomes more of a Carlos Cuellar than a Jose Angel Crespo." I'd be disappointed if he just reaches the heights of carlos cuellar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) I am Will Ferrell when it comes to pronouncing Pau's name Edited July 4, 2023 by lapal_fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: I am Will Ferrell when it comes to pronouncing Pau's name What film is this from? I haven’t seen it and I need to watch it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: What film is this from? I haven’t seen it and I need to watch it. 'Step Brothers'. One of a trilogy of films that made up Ferrell's noontide. Along with Anchorman and Old School. Be sure to keep an eye out for the Catalina Wine Mixer Edited July 4, 2023 by Steero113 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Think of Spanish defenders that have joined Villa so can write some crappy line about which one they turn out like. It’s really poor and you could probably find better articles on the transfer written by someone on VT. Pau Torres good. He now Villa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) I don’t mind journos being critical of Villa or our players. It’s often quite refreshing to see our club from a different perspective. However Gregg Evens doesn’t write his criticism in a constructive way, but more as buzz kill. Fair enough if he wants to cool the excitement of fans, but could he do it with less glee. It’s like he can’t wait to put a Debbie downer on everything Villa. Also, he often exposes himself as ill informed about Villa, in particular transfers rumours and finances, what just makes his credibility too poor to have his negative elements in articles taken seriously or liked. For example his Pau Torres article is in large correct, but is written in such a dower way.. my buzz is killed, cheers. It’s like he failed or wanted to read the room. He still could have all the same elements and made the overall feel of the article be positive, but somehow didn’t for what ever reason Edited July 4, 2023 by CarryOnVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 28 minutes ago, TRO said: I think the Neggies put forward by Gregg Evans, may be apt, but I think he missing the part of the team......rarely can ANY player do everything, I.E Messi will have difficulty with aerial balls....and Ronaldo at defending. We have aggression in Mings, this is where players compliment each others attributes....thats what top TEAMS do....Pau Torres will have team mates who can compliment his talent. I think it was a bit "sour grapes ish" from Athletic, who seem more intent of Pau's Neggies than Pozies. We have a manager, who is tops in galvanising the key attributes in a team....the make the whole. sorry, I couldn’t resist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 If this guy had been sold to Man Citeh, or Man Yoo, or the Barcodes, or Liverplop, the media would be wetting themselves....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, delboy54 said: If this guy had been sold to Man Citeh, or Man Yoo, or the Barcodes, or Liverplop, the media would be wetting themselves....... Why hasn't he been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Why hasn't he been? This is a good question. I’m delighted by this signing but let’s wait until we see how he gets on before calling it the transfer of the summer. He might need time to settle. Im very optimistic about him though. Edited July 4, 2023 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Tomaszk said: Why hasn't he been? No idea mate, I was just being annoyed that it seems every player we buy is always dismissed by the media, yet the opposite reaction occurs whenever the so called top clubs buy a player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted July 4, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: This is a good question. I’m deleted by this signing but let’s wait until we see how he gets on before calling it the transfer of the summer. He might need time to settle. Im very optimistic about him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, delboy54 said: No idea mate, I was just being annoyed that it seems every player we buy is always dismissed by the media, yet the opposite reaction occurs whenever the so called top clubs buy a player I honestly don’t think this happens. We just pay more attention to articles involving Villa. If you looked up all articles for other clubs signings you would also find a mixed bag. I just think a lot of football fans are very precious and sensitive about their clubs. It’s not just us. I know fans of other clubs which are the so called big clubs that seem to think everyone is against them from media to officials. Arsenal fans are the worst for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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