nick76 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, KMitch said: ...and like Alvarez, we won't be able to sign him either. He's the biggest prospect in South America and was just capped by the Brazilian senior squad. Why would he go to Villa for 40k/week when a Champions League club will be in for him and will pay him 100k+/week before he even kicks a ball in anger? It'll be the same situation as Alvarez... We'll inquire and make a pitch, but he'll politely turn us down and wait for more money/prestige from someone else. Exactly, and I wouldn’t believe anybody who says he might see us as getting more game time. When the elite clubs come knocking, teams like us very rarely get a look in. These kids dream of playing for clubs like Barca and Madrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burchy Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Taking the Roque links and the fact that it appears we were in for Felix in January it does prove that the level we are aiming at has moved up somewhat, which is great news. We’ll get rejected a fair few times but we only need one or two of these calibre of players to sign on the dotted line and we’ll be flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 hour ago, KMitch said: ...and like Alvarez, we won't be able to sign him either. He's the biggest prospect in South America and was just capped by the Brazilian senior squad. Why would he go to Villa for 40k/week when a Champions League club will be in for him and will pay him 100k+/week before he even kicks a ball in anger? It'll be the same situation as Alvarez... We'll inquire and make a pitch, but he'll politely turn us down and wait for more money/prestige from someone else. Stark similarities to the Kamara situation here. If memory serves, that went rather well for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: Stark similarities to the Kamara situation here. If memory serves, that went rather well for us. Can’t agree, far closer to the Alvarez situation than Kamara! Moving from the South American leagues is vastly different than the French league for youngsters Edited April 4, 2023 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 minute ago, nick76 said: Can’t agree, far closer to the Alvarez situation than Kamara! Moving from the South American leagues is vastly different than the French league for youngsters Similarities. Not identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: Similarities. Not identical. Yeah but it’s a huge difference but I hope you are right and it happens in the same way. Edited April 4, 2023 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: Stark similarities to the Kamara situation here. If memory serves, that went rather well for us. They're nothing alike... It's akin to Villa beating out Madrid and half the clubs in Europe for Martin Odegaard in 2015... Kamara was a mainstay in a good Marseilles side for 5 seasons and helped get them to the Europa League final. We apparently offered him more money than other clubs by way of wages and a massive sign on fee, not to mention Gerrard promised to build our entire team around him with him being our key midfielder. He was statistically one of the best defensive midfielders in Europe and we were willing to pay top dollar for a player who would slot in and improve us immediately. Roque is 18, only has a year of professional footy under his belt in Brazil, and has just got a call up/cap for Brazil. Half the clubs in the Premier League as well as all the other top clubs in Europe have met/are meeting with his representatives ahead of a summer move. There is no way he's ready to be starting on the regular for Villa in the Premier League at this time so spending a huge amount of money on someone so young/inexperienced could destroy us from a FFP perspective if he turns out to be a flop. It's nice to see we're at least making the attempt, but I would bet money against him coming to Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steero113 Posted April 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2023 10 hours ago, SecretVillaScout said: Holy crap! He one of the biggest wonderkids in World Footy. Are the sportwitness a good source? Is Northern Rock a good place for your savings? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 hour ago, KMitch said: They're nothing alike... It's akin to Villa beating out Madrid and half the clubs in Europe for Martin Odegaard in 2015... Kamara was a mainstay in a good Marseilles side for 5 seasons and helped get them to the Europa League final. We apparently offered him more money than other clubs by way of wages and a massive sign on fee, not to mention Gerrard promised to build our entire team around him with him being our key midfielder. He was statistically one of the best defensive midfielders in Europe and we were willing to pay top dollar for a player who would slot in and improve us immediately. Roque is 18, only has a year of professional footy under his belt in Brazil, and has just got a call up/cap for Brazil. Half the clubs in the Premier League as well as all the other top clubs in Europe have met/are meeting with his representatives ahead of a summer move. There is no way he's ready to be starting on the regular for Villa in the Premier League at this time so spending a huge amount of money on someone so young/inexperienced could destroy us from a FFP perspective if he turns out to be a flop. It's nice to see we're at least making the attempt, but I would bet money against him coming to Villa. Zero chance we land him. If he comes to England it will be one of the 'big 6'. Could see Arsenal landing him, with Edu and their Brazilian links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted April 4, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Steero113 said: Is Northern Rock a good place for your savings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Guendouzi, Gallagher, Mount any of those would be nice addition this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 6 hours ago, KMitch said: ...and like Alvarez, we won't be able to sign him either. He's the biggest prospect in South America and was just capped by the Brazilian senior squad. Why would he go to Villa for 40k/week when a Champions League club will be in for him and will pay him 100k+/week before he even kicks a ball in anger? It'll be the same situation as Alvarez... We'll inquire and make a pitch, but he'll politely turn us down and wait for more money/prestige from someone else. I don't know anything about this kid, but we do now have a nice South American core at the club. It's the kind of thing that could sway a young player to join us instead of the 'elite'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, bobzy said: I don't know anything about this kid, but we do now have a nice South American core at the club. It's the kind of thing that could sway a young player to join us instead of the 'elite'. He's one of the most highly rated young players in Brazil since Vinicius Jr and Neymar, he's not coming here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 03/04/2023 at 12:04, sne said: A plethora even? Seriously yea, there is loads of good players in those 9 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) I know its ambitious but id love to go for maddison Edited April 4, 2023 by Demitri_C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: I know its ambitious but id love to go for maddison Think he would be more realistic than Mount, but could see Maddison at Spurs or Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: I know its ambitious but id love to go for maddison We could totally sign him, he won't have much better suitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 A decent keeper as back up for Martinez, Olsen just doesn't give me faith not sure where our younger keepers are in there development (and pray we keep Martinez!) A quality CB to play alongside Mings I actually think this is a key purchase (DC & EK as back up would give us real strength in depth) Guendouzi would be great addition to our midfield hoping we keep who we have currently, maybe promote Tim but he will probably need another season elsewhere Dendonker stays until Tim is ready A quality forward, my preference would be someone that can play across the line (still desperate for Bailey to come good but not sure it will happen) Just how long can Ashley Young keep going? If he has another year in him I'm fine with him and Cash as the RB options for now, we are also well covered at LB for another season. Eddie Howe has shown you don't need to spend £500 mil in a window to get great results, we have a top manager give him £150-200 mil and we will push for top 6 we just need to keep hold of a few core players who other teams may be interested in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I know its ambitious but id love to go for maddison He's a quality player but he will have better options than us unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid4ever Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 03/04/2023 at 12:04, sne said: A plethora even? Thanks, it means a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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