tom_avfc Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 This thread is ridiculous. We’ve just lost to the two best teams in the league and people are using that to suggest that we’re going down. Results since Emery came in have been more than I expected and had we not wasted the first third of the season without an actual manager we’d be up there with Brighton and Fulham in my opinion. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted February 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) Need only about 8 points from the next 14 games. In my mind, I think we'll do it, but it's obviously possible to need more, too. I look forward to a day when this thread is almost forgotten, but we're nowhere near it, and yeah, I get sick of the indignities of these little jittery weekends where it feels like we're all about to shit our pants again. See that chicken down there? That's my Villa Saturday. Watch it run. Edited February 18, 2023 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, bobzy said: Dreamland? We’re 3 points off t10 and our next fixtures are Everton (A), Palace (H), West Ham (A), Bournemouth (H), Chelsea (A), Forest (H). Obviously “all games are hard games”, but we could very feasibly get 12 points from those and be in the top half. And we could feasibly get 3. How did we get on against Bournemouth, Leeds, Leicester and West Ham this season? We’re a below average PL team and a bad run of luck/form could see us in a bit of trouble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 7 points off 8th, 8 points off 18th, 7 points off 17th. You can choose to be glass half full and look up or glass half empty and look down. I have seen enough under Emery to suggest that we should be very much glass half full and be hopeful of at the very least finishing no worse than where we currently stand. Edited February 18, 2023 by markavfc40 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: 7 points off 8th, 8 points off 18th, 7 points off 17th. You can choose to be glass half full and look up or glass half empty and look down. I have seen enough under Emery to suggest that we should be very much glass half full and be hopeful of at the very least finishing no worse than where we currently stand. Leicester will finish above us, as will Wolves and maybe Palace. I can see another 14th place finish. Had Emery been in charge from the start of the season, I think we could have pushed towards a 10th/11th place finish. But that’s your lot. Our players aren’t good enough to finish higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: And we could feasibly get 3. How did we get on against Bournemouth, Leeds, Leicester and West Ham this season? We’re a below average PL team and a bad run of luck/form could see us in a bit of trouble. Of course we could. You think we’ll get 3 points from our next 6 then do you? There’s a huge difference between us at the start of the season (Bournemouth, West Ham) and us now (Leeds, Leicester). First two were weak defeats, second two were a victory and a game which we dominated yet contrived to lose. We’ve beaten Man Utd, Spurs, Brighton and been unlucky to lose against Arsenal. Outside of the Man City performance (which was poor), we’ve been decent to very good in every game since Emery has come in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, bobzy said: Of course we could. You think we’ll get 3 points from our next 6 then do you? There’s a huge difference between us at the start of the season (Bournemouth, West Ham) and us now (Leeds, Leicester). First two were weak defeats, second two were a victory and a game which we dominated yet contrived to lose. We’ve beaten Man Utd, Spurs, Brighton and been unlucky to lose against Arsenal. Outside of the Man City performance (which was poor), we’ve been decent to very good in every game since Emery has come in. Let’s see who’s right in a few weeks time. We could easily have lost the Spurs game as we were poor first half and we weren’t unlucky to lose today, they were just better than us. We haven’t been decent in every game either. We were poor against Wolves, Leeds and Leicester. Without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 18, 2023 47 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Leicester will finish above us, as will Wolves and maybe Palace. I can see another 14th place finish. Had Emery been in charge from the start of the season, I think we could have pushed towards a 10th/11th place finish. But that’s your lot. Our players aren’t good enough to finish higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Just now, Mark Albrighton said: Wolves are better than us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 18, 2023 Just now, Delphinho123 said: Wolves are better than us. The table says otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Mark Albrighton said: The table says otherwise. Let’s see at the end of the season. Happy to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) Can't we set up a mid table battle thread in preparation for the Palace game? That is really the big moment, the fight for 11th spot. Who cares about the title race or the relegation battle. Edited February 18, 2023 by The Fun Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Can't we set up a mid table battle thread in preparation for the Palace game? That is really the big moment, the fight for 11th spot. Who cares about the title race or the relegation battle. There already is one in essence. However it hasn’t got the ambitious sex appeal for the optimists that populate the European thread and equally it doesn’t exude the required brooding bleak romanticism of Edgar Allan Poe that this relegation thread does for the pessimists. Here it is, in all it’s <shrug shoulders, yeah whatever> glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: Let’s see who’s right in a few weeks time. We could easily have lost the Spurs game as we were poor first half and we weren’t unlucky to lose today, they were just better than us. We haven’t been decent in every game either. We were poor against Wolves, Leeds and Leicester. Without question. You didn’t answer though - you think we’re getting 3 points from the next 6? Edit: also, what? We were good against Leicester! I mean… unless you’re saying poor because of gifting them goals? But it was a good performance otherwise. Comfortably the better side. Edited February 18, 2023 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 51 minutes ago, bobzy said: You didn’t answer though - you think we’re getting 3 points from the next 6? Edit: also, what? We were good against Leicester! I mean… unless you’re saying poor because of gifting them goals? But it was a good performance otherwise. Comfortably the better side. Yeh, maybe. Maybe we will get 3 from the next 6. I think it’s a possibility given how fragile we are. Unlikely, but a possibility yes. I don’t think we’ll go down, I’m just saying we’re nowhere near as good as people on this forum want to believe. We could very well be pulled into this relegation fight. Yes. We were poor because we gifted them goals. Generally, if you gift the opposition goals, it means you’re poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: Wolves are better than us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Leicester will finish above us, as will Wolves and maybe Palace. I can see another 14th place finish. Had Emery been in charge from the start of the season, I think we could have pushed towards a 10th/11th place finish. But that’s your lot. Our players aren’t good enough to finish higher. Would have agreed about Wolves since they’ve looked better, but they lost at home to Bournemouth today. Things stay the same: there are six big clubs. A couple of the others can sometimes outperform for a season only to fall down again (like West Ham this season). Clubs with 3-4 times higher revenue will always win in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Leeroy said: Relegation might be a possibility after today. Maybe people are right, we just need to get to 40 points and hope for the best. We were 17th under Gerrard, maybe we can just about not finish lower than that under a supposedly far superior manager. Thats great....we have been 11th for 3 weeks and nobody went above us while we played the 2 of the best teams in the league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I think we will do well to get 50 points this season...... Not a chance on earth are we going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Zatman said: Thats great....we have been 11th for 3 weeks and nobody went above us while we played the 2 of the best teams in the league Just need to get to 40 points quickly. The team just isn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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