AVFC_Hitz Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Dream Theater are pretty overrated nowadays. I think their older stuff was fantastic (pretty much everything pre-Octavarium, with the odd exception), but now they sound like a cover band of themselves. They're still top notch musicians, but it's a shame to hear how they've turned out. So they're a bit like Covered of Course? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Re bands and drugs rather than overratednesslessness hell yi Heh, loved them. Then I picked up instruments and went off them a bit. You can see how JP got big after the split. Thought the Kember side of 'Recurring' was awful. Post Spacemen he didn't get any better, though he's been a sterling champion of Delia Derbyshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I'm surprised Queen haven't had more votes. A couple of decent tracks, but overall I'd rather listen to my car alarm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted November 17, 2014 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2014 To be "most over rated, obviously the act in question has to be at least "highly rated" - I mean if the general view is "they're OK, I suppose" then they're not likely to be the most over rated band in the world. Secondly, popularity with the general public doesn't enter into it. Lots of bands are very popular, but not "rated" that highly, or highly at all by the music media. A few are both popular and highly rated. The reason I pick the music media is that us lot, normal people tend to say "Yeah I really love this band" or "they're rubbish" or "I like this". But we don't tend to go on about how influential a band is or was, or how they invented a whole new way of songwriting or playing or defining a generation or inventing slided bread. Lastly - there's the record companies themselves. Their job is to sell music, so they almost have to over rate bands and albums and music. If they were to say "here's an OK new album by a pretty ordinary act" it doesn't quite do the job. Though it would be refreshingly honest. Here's a shortlist of candidates. 1. Radiohead. I absolutely love Radiohead, but they do seem to attract a degree of fawning hype from various sources. That said, they've not made a bad record. So it can't be them. 2. The Sex Pistols - there's the whole Manchester Free trade Hall gig, and how it started a revolution. Maybe it did. But at the end of the day they had about 5 good songs. Bloody excellent ones. But the reputation and the actual ability and music created - miles apart. 3. U2 - They were long and often touted as "the best band in the world" and "the world's best act" - definite grounds, there, for "most over-rated" then. Number of good records made - 2, 3 at most. 4. Coldplay - Inexplicably liked and inexplicably hated. Probably for all the hate they attract they can't be the most over-rated band. They're just ordinary filler., about half way between the popularity and the hate. 5. Queen - lots of devoted fans. admired for their live Aid performance. I personally don't have the capability to like a single thing they're done, which is my loss, I suppose. Not really "over-rated". They were good at what they did. But the winner is 6. The Beatles. "Oh but you must get their recordings in mono, on Vinyl to fully appreciate them". No. Just No. OK they made a handful of cracking pop songs, and evolved from cheesy boy band to hippy maharishi stoners, man. "But Sgt. Pepper! surely?" No. They did a concept record. That's nice then. "But everything they ever did ever was the best ever, and they invented everything. get it in mono, and hear for yourself" No. Just No. "And Paul McCartney - He's rock royalty, Pete". Maybe. But truth be told he's a bit of dick. "And John Lennon, what talent". What hypocrisy. So it's the effing beatles, by a huge distance. Yes popular. Yes, I'm sure they were good, very good (though as with Queen I can't really understand why, due to some failing on my part). Yes influential. But they didn't invent the world the way they're portrayed as doing. Pah! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I'm surprised Queen haven't had more votes. A couple of decent tracks, but overall I'd rather listen to my car alarm. My dad loved Queen back in the day. He saw himself as a bit of an old school rocker, it hit him quite hard for a while when it turned out the lead singer of a big rock band could have facial hair and a leather jacket - but then possibly not be 100% hetro. Quite funny now that he was so literal. It was '76 - '77 - '78 that sort of period when me and the old man grew apart a bit. He loved all that old school rock shit, I got into what was new (Stranglers, Jam etc..). The whole point of my stuff was to take the piss out of the old overblown stuff. He would genuinely get upset by 'scruffs that can't play instruments singing songs about rubbish'. Whereas I was amazed somebody could like distant super groups singing 15 minute noodly bollox about fairy fights. Anyway, he's fine now, he's listening to a little bit of jazz and blues when he listens to anything - so I'm taking it that I won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 17, 2014 Moderator Share Posted November 17, 2014 Blandy bang on the money there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I don't think many people actually rates the sex pistols music, what they did as a music movement yes, but not there actual music, which was as bad then as it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 the sex pistols came along when music was up its own arse and the bands of the day were tossing 45 minute drum and guitar solos off. for instance zeppelin were doing 3 hour plus shows by then and over half of that was guitar,drum,organ solos. people got bored and the pistols came out just at the right time but what a load of shit imo, dont mind the odd song but nah they wernt for me. id rather watch page or whoever toss his guitar off for an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 i know the clash are completely different to the pistols and had a lot more going on musically than them but out of those punk type of bands i did not mind the clash to much but i have no albums by them and never will purely because its just not my type of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 17, 2014 Moderator Share Posted November 17, 2014 I don't think many people actually rates the sex pistols music, what they did as a music movement yes, but not there actual music, which was as bad then as it is now.Holidays in the Sun had such an effect on John Peel he didn't go on a foreign holiday for nearly 20 years iirc. NMTB is and deserves to be regarded as a good album. Cook and Jones were some of the most sought after session guys after the band broke up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Blandy bang on the money there! Of course he is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 As blandy said, the Pistols have 5 or 6 absolute barns storming tunes. As bicks said NMTB is correctly highly regarded. For the time they existed, the amount of work they put out, and the impact they had, that's pretty good going in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I don't think many people actually rates the sex pistols music, what they did as a music movement yes, but not there actual music, which was as bad then as it is now. Holidays in the Sun had such an effect on John Peel he didn't go on a foreign holiday for nearly 20 years iirc. Why? That's mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 NMTB sounds really really flat to me, I don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 i just hate punk so im biased. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 overrated albums,guitarists,drummers,singers etc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 That's mental. Or tight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Blandy bang on the money there! that "like" you gave there is almost on a par with liking your own post blandy Edited November 17, 2014 by tonyh29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 17, 2014 Moderator Share Posted November 17, 2014 I'm over rated, tony. Gotta keep up the hype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 overrated guitarist? The edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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