Summer Transfer Window 2022

[danceoftheshamen]

Just now, PerryBarrPet said:

And so the tumbleweed blows. Is this where the sty (aka St. Andrews) used to be?

No that's their carpark on matchays 

[MWARLEY2]

Just now, PerryBarrPet said:

And so the tumbleweed blows. Is this where the sty (aka St. Andrews) used to be?

Thats their training ground when their 12 players are having lunch

[VillaFaninLondon]

29 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

I think we should be 2 or 3 places up the league in management alone, the squad is there, strikers in particular, Gerrard has to make them 2 work, we have top 10 strikers options he has to give them the confidence and training to get them firing

add to that, again striker in particular, he now needs to get the squad together and have a good look at it, see who has come back fit, see who has come back better, i know he said he wants to do his shopping before oz but i think he needs a month to assess his options and see what's already there, Archer jumps out at me so does KKH

then we can go shopping again, replace who we can sell, the 3 england U19 boys wont be ready, sanson and luiz create a problem because im not sure we will shift them easily, next summer and the next couple of summers isn't so much a rebuild its integration 

I think we're a new CM and a fully fit motivated well managed team away from top 10 personally, at some point Gerrard has to do his job! that could be the difference this summer

I know we've lowered our expectations massively and we are competing against a lot of teams, but top 10 should be a given with what we have invested in this squad. We should have done it last season with our squad. Wolves have spent less than us yet have managed it three times in four seasons since promotion (albeit with some help from Jorge Mendes and his clients). 

 

With the wages we are now paying top 10 should be happening whether we recruit anyone else or not IMO. Of course it doesn't help that Newcastle have come along with all their billions now but we should still be getting ahead of the other teams without our resources like Brentford, Palace, Brighton etc. 

 

I think our ambition has to be Europe and top 7 and right now we are very unlikely to achieve that. 

[hippo]

6 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said:

I know we've lowered our expectations massively and we are competing against a lot of teams, but top 10 should be a given with what we have invested in this squad. We should have done it last season with our squad. Wolves have spent less than us yet have managed it three times in four seasons since promotion (albeit with some help from Jorge Mendes and his clients). 

 

With the wages we are now paying top 10 should be happening whether we recruit anyone else or not IMO. Of course it doesn't help that Newcastle have come along with all their billions now but we should still be getting ahead of the other teams without our resources like Brentford, Palace, Brighton etc. 

 

I think our ambition has to be Europe and top 7 and right now we are very unlikely to achieve that. 

Depends what you mean by ambition. Sure it's the stated target of the board. 

 But it will be something of a surprise to me if we are challenging for the European places next season.

[paul514]

1 hour ago, Mazrim said:

I'm reliably informed by "financial wizkids" that we can spend more this summer. I don't know the ins and outs but they do, and they say we can so I believe them. Now if you add very ambitious multibillionaire owners who have got richer recently into that mix, it points to increase investment.

Mainly because a) they can b) they should c) they need to in order to compete for the places they want us to. d) Gerrard is a new manager that needs proper backing.  It wont be limitless but if he fails he will lose his job and somebody else will get the funding. But the funding wont stop.

These guys are very serious about challenging for the top 6 and soon, and certainly top 8 next season. There's not much chance of that without further significant investment and they know it.

FFP shows we can spend loads more.

[beachboys1]

44 minutes ago, Tayls said:

But isn’t (possibly) £80m already quite a lot? 

gtood point

[villa4europe]

9 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said:

I know we've lowered our expectations massively and we are competing against a lot of teams, but top 10 should be a given with what we have invested in this squad. We should have done it last season with our squad. Wolves have spent less than us yet have managed it three times in four seasons since promotion (albeit with some help from Jorge Mendes and his clients). 

With the wages we are now paying top 10 should be happening whether we recruit anyone else or not IMO. Of course it doesn't help that Newcastle have come along with all their billions now but we should still be getting ahead of the other teams without our resources like Brentford, Palace, Brighton etc. 

I think our ambition has to be Europe and top 7 and right now we are very unlikely to achieve that. 

not including this summer wolves have spent £30m less than us in the last 5 years, more importantly they spent some of it whilst still in the championship and didn't have to build a team from scratch, they had a head start on us

but I think the main thing you're missing is that money isn't enough, it doesn't guarantee progress up the league and I've not seen 21/22 wages yet but 20/21 we were 12th in the wages league so we weren't top 10 payers - at some point the management has to factor in, especially as we have changed manager

add to that I personally think palace have bought really well for a few years now and they'll be competing with us this year, good young team 

[VillaJay]

The way I see it, we are looking to sign proven cl level players or players at that level already who can improve our first team. 

Digne, Coutinho, Kamara, Diego Carlos are all at that level and we've added 4 players to our squad that weren't there at the start of last season that have the potential to significantly improve our starting team on last season.

There's no point signing high potential players for 15-25m when we have some of the highest rated youngsters in English football available, they should be filling the bench or act as squad options to enable a pathway into the team.

A Ramsay, Chuk, Tim and KKH are 4 high potential players that should be added to the existing squad alongside Archer.

[lexicon]

3 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Ash is back.

Again.

I wonder if the decision was more down to terms, or us taking a little time to evaluate our option in the market, and deciding it wasn't worth signing a player for X amount to provide backup.

I was saying to a friend earlier that this deal makes a lot of sense - we're not going to get much better than him who'll be happy to always be on the bench if Digne is fit, plus we don't have any extra games (Europe) to play them in. Young for a year, see where Chrisene's development after a loan spell, take it from there next summer. 

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

1 hour ago, VillaFaninLondon said:

That's always the excuse.

Lol, there are more " prestigious " clubs than us, struggling to find elite strikers, and players for certain positions.

Unless some of you just want us to keep exciting unknown names coming through the door just because, like in our first season back?

[RichiBoi11]

7 minutes ago, VillaJay said:

The way I see it, we are looking to sign proven cl level players or players at that level already who can improve our first team. 

Digne, Coutinho, Kamara, Diego Carlos are all at that level and we've added 4 players to our squad that weren't there at the start of last season that have the potential to significantly improve our starting team on last season.

There's no point signing high potential players for 15-25m when we have some of the highest rated youngsters in English football available, they should be filling the bench or act as squad options to enable a pathway into the team.

A Ramsay, Chuk, Tim and KKH are 4 high potential players that should be added to the existing squad alongside Archer.

There are 5 subs next season as well which should allow for more rotation and opportunities. That said I'd still loan three of them out as a full season in the championship would do wonders for them. Chuk is the obnly one I really see playing enough for it to benefit his growth and our first team. 

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

21 minutes ago, paul514 said:

FFP shows we can spend loads more.

Sod FFP, financial wizards, and people with close connections to the club stating otherwise... a few of our resident theorists have insisted we are done, and that's that!

Edited July 4, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN

[jacketspuds]

As cliched as it sounds, I'm hoping that Bailey feels like a new signing next season. On reflection, last summer felt like a real disappointment considering that neither Ings or Bailey were able to delivery what we hoped they would.

However, the fact is that we have signed 2 new players this season and we definitely need more if we want to achieve what the board expect next season.

I still think we will see 2 or 3 more come in over the next few weeks, and I also think that if we had staggered our signings throughout the window so far, there would be less negativity about our current position.

[useless]

I find this idea that no decent left-back will come to us to be back-up ludicrous, going by that logic we can only have eleven decent players because no others will sign for us as back-up players in the other positions either, people jumping to some strange conclusions just because Young has signed a contract, something he was always likely to do anyway.

I think we will still sign a fullback, a midfielder, and an attacker of some sort.

[sne]

PSV rumored to be trying to get Wijnaldum back from PSG. 

Maybe this could mean that Sangaré might still be on the way out? Not that they could not play together but you never know.

[VillaFaninLondon]

52 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

not including this summer wolves have spent £30m less than us in the last 5 years, more importantly they spent some of it whilst still in the championship and didn't have to build a team from scratch, they had a head start on us

but I think the main thing you're missing is that money isn't enough, it doesn't guarantee progress up the league and I've not seen 21/22 wages yet but 20/21 we were 12th in the wages league so we weren't top 10 payers - at some point the management has to factor in, especially as we have changed manager

add to that I personally think palace have bought really well for a few years now and they'll be competing with us this year, good young team 

Yes this is true but you more you invest and the more you pay in wages it’s perfectly reasonable to expect a return on that. It's also a bad sign for the club if we're investing but not actually progressing to where we should. 

 

I’d also like to see your sources for those wages, I really can’t believe that we’re the 12^th highest in the league, I thought we were around 10^th before the start of last season and that was before we signed Ings, Carlos, Digne, Coutinho, Kamara etc who are all on over 100K per week. I’d say our wage spend is easily the top 10 in the league and most likely top 8 now.

 

Teams can spend big money and still be sh*t, just look at Everton, but we don’t want to be like them. We want to be a well-run club that spends its money well and performs at the level it should be performing at (even better if it’s performing above that level).

[John]

4 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said:

Sneaky link to Joe Aribo at the bottom of this article. 

 

As Big Ron used to say "Don't tell me, show me". 

[VillaFaninLondon]

45 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Lol, there are more " prestigious " clubs than us, struggling to find elite strikers, and players for certain positions.

Unless some of you just want us to keep exciting unknown names coming through the door just because, like in our first season back?

Arsenal - Jesus

City - Haaland

Spurs - Richarlison

Liverpool - Nunez

 

Someone like Jonathan David could easily turn into a 20-goal a season striker with the right fine-tuning. Would certainly have more confidence in him doing it than Ollie or Ings anyhow especially as he's still very young. Only problem is he will cost 40m+ and it looks like we don't want to take the risk. 

[PerryBarrPet]

31 minutes ago, useless said:

I find this idea that no decent left-back will come to us to be back-up ludicrous, going by that logic we can only have eleven decent players because no others will sign for us as back-up players in the other positions either, people jumping to some strange conclusions just because Young has signed a contract, something he was always likely to do anyway.

I think we will still sign a fullback, a midfielder, and an attacker of some sort.

I’m sort of with you on this but as far as the midfielder and attacker are concerned we will only sign players who are a clear improvement on what we have - waste of money otherwise. So if we cannot find “improvements” we will not buy. Also don’t think we will pay over the odds. On the left back then cover is required but again we will not pay high demands.

[nick76]

2 hours ago, VillaFaninLondon said:

But he can cover multiple positions so we'd clearly give him plenty of gametime while he;s maturing. 

 

Even so Brentford have Henry who's quite highly rated over there so although he's got more chance of starting at LB for them, it's hardly a given.

If he has ambitions he would see both us and Brentford as a stepping stone to a big six club and would see more first team game time opportunity at Brentford so it seems a no brainer decision for him.  

He doesn’t have loyalty to us, rose tinted glasses for us and while we are a much bigger club we are very much a mid table team but with outstanding current fullbacks so he would see his time limited for some time.  The kid has ambition, he was never coming here to be mainly back up.  

We’d love him but I’m not sure what he gets from us with likely the many other options he has.