Zatman Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 minute ago, sne said: I'd happily play the "double pivot" with Luiz alongside Kamara or with a new CM. Don't think that we will thou. Might still sign another CM thou. But the links to Collins comes from somewhere and I'd much rather have Saliba than him. Saliba will be starting next season for Arsenal according to the reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Otavio is fantastic defensively. Sign him up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, sne said: I'd happily play the "double pivot" with Luiz alongside Kamara or with a new CM. Don't think that we will thou. Might still sign another CM thou. But the links to Collins comes from somewhere and I'd much rather have Saliba than him. Not sure I'm taken by his mucky video accusations.....Character, is so,so important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, John said: Scott Twine has signed for Burnley for an undisclosed fee today. He had looked a very good midfield prospect at MK Dons, I wonder whether we considered giving this 22-year old a place on our bench next season? He was stringing them along though, John Edited June 27, 2022 by TRO 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HalfTimePost Posted June 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) Otávio's stats as an attacking presence, for a winger, are relatively poor. He doesn't carry the ball, he doesn't get many assists and he doesn't get many goals. Edit: to be fair, he got 11 Assists last season so perhaps a bit harsh here. But he doesn't set the world alight is fair. What he does appear to do well (from stats alone) is Press, tackle, block and win headers (despite his size) better than nearly any winger or attacking midfielder. He plays a lot of passes, with an OK completion and they are vastly progressive passes, amongst the best in his position. He's effectively Buendia without the insane Assist and Goal creation stats in the championship. People have talked about Buendia playing central and it hasn't quite worked. This guy already plays less attacking than Buendia, already has the stats we're desperate for and may actually just suit Gerrards mental system. Not to mention he's highly rated as **** and at 27 would add experience to our midfield but also have the coveted sell on value. This may make very good sense Coutinho. Buendia Ramsey. Otávio Kamara Might just work, we'd have genuine options with McGinn, Iroegbunam and whoever stays from Carney, Sanson and Luiz too. Edited June 27, 2022 by HalfTimePost 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, TRO said: He was stringing them along though, John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Otavio is fantastic defensively. Sign him up! The 5'8 beast of a man, will be great at set pieces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, TRO said: The 5'8 beast of a man, will be great at set pieces. That’s not even a full Elphick. we want our 7’10 midfield destroyer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: Otávio's stats as an attacking presence, for a winger, are relatively poor. He doesn't carry the ball, he doesn't get many assists and he doesn't get many goals. Edit: to be fair, he got 11 Assists last season so perhaps a bit harsh here. But he doesn't set the world alight is fair. What he does appear to do well (from stats alone) is Press, tackle, block and win headers (despite his size) better than nearly any winger or attacking midfielder. He plays a lot of passes, with an OK completion and they are vastly progressive passes, amongst the best in his position. He's effectively Buendia without the insane Assist and Goal creation stats in the championship. People have talked about Buendia playing central and it hasn't quite worked. This guy already plays less attacking than Buendia, already has the stats we're desperate for and may actually just suit Gerrards mental system. Not to mention he's highly rated as **** and at 27 would add experience to our midfield but also have the coveted sell on value. This may make very good sense Coutinho. Buendia Ramsey. Otávio Kamara Might just work, we'd have genuine options with McGinn, Iroegbunam and whoever stays from Carney, Sanson and Luiz too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 minute ago, CarryOnVilla said: That’s not even a full Elphick. we want our 7’10 midfield destroyer too small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 45 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: Yeah I don't want to be signing anyone who will lead to buendia getting less game time Otavio would be signed for one of the 8 positions. He could play as one of the 10s too if needed. Same way McGinn could for example. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: A Winger, that wings it. Edited June 27, 2022 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: Otávio's stats as an attacking presence, for a winger, are relatively poor. He doesn't carry the ball, he doesn't get many assists and he doesn't get many goals. Edit: to be fair, he got 11 Assists last season so perhaps a bit harsh here. But he doesn't set the world alight is fair. What he does appear to do well (from stats alone) is Press, tackle, block and win headers (despite his size) better than nearly any winger or attacking midfielder. He plays a lot of passes, with an OK completion and they are vastly progressive passes, amongst the best in his position. He's effectively Buendia without the insane Assist and Goal creation stats in the championship. People have talked about Buendia playing central and it hasn't quite worked. This guy already plays less attacking than Buendia, already has the stats we're desperate for and may actually just suit Gerrards mental system. Not to mention he's highly rated as **** and at 27 would add experience to our midfield but also have the coveted sell on value. This may make very good sense Coutinho. Buendia Ramsey. Otávio Kamara Might just work, we'd have genuine options with McGinn, Iroegbunam and whoever stays from Carney, Sanson and Luiz too. IF you are using FBref then it's from only European games as Portugal isn't one of top 5 leagues. Hence tiny sample and toughest games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I know nothing of Otavio but he’s meant to be a good player that would be available for 34m. Apparently we offered 25m and it got rejected. Probably all bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 27 minutes ago, Zatman said: Saliba will be starting next season for Arsenal according to the reports He's good enough. Remains to be seen how he feels about Arsenal, he's been very step-motherly treated by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I've seen Emi Buendia beat some of our 6 plus footers to headers..... so. Then again this might say more about our 6 plus footers than him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I know nothing of Otavio but he’s meant to be a good player that would be available for 34m. Apparently we offered 25m and it got rejected. Probably all bollocks. Lange loves his £25m bids £25m for JWP £25m for Smith-Rowe £25m for Otavio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, TRO said: He was stringing them along though, John He was knot 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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