Demitri_C Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: He stopped a certain equaliser against Burnley, and then we went and got a third. Regardless of your assessment of him, he still deserves credit when it's due, as does any player who puts on that shirt. Your hypothesis doesn't make sense, Burnley are better than Hibs, he didn't lose us the game. In fact, I'm struggling to remember when he did cost us a game. I hope Emi is fit for Saturday, if not, then it's important that the fans get behind Olsen and hopefully he can draw more confidence from that support. It makes alot of sense. Burnley were not good despite your analysis he has been in goal against 2 poor sides and didnt have much to do. Yes give him credit for his saves but doesnt mean he is a good keeper. He just causes panic, cant command his box, shit at kicking the ball, and just does not inspire confidence to his defenders. I just hope emis back on sunday otherwise its going to be a bloodbath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Could have had his deck chair out in both legs. Hopefully back to the bench for Emi this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rjw63 Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: against bettee opposition 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunther Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 He's a funny one. Made some good saves but nearly Encklemanned one. Also his first action was to block a low hard cross and he just palmed it into the middle of the six yard box which you just can't do against better opposition. Is it just confidence? He just doesn't seem to have it. Hope a couple of decent games without costing us anything will do him the world of good, but I'd still feel happier with a better second choice keeper. It's a tough signing to make with such a dominant first choice keeper but I was hoping we'd be able to persuade someone if we offered cup time. Doesn't seem like it's going to happen though so hope this little run does him good, while also hoping that Martinez is back on Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: It makes alot of sense. Burnley were not good despite your analysis he has been in goal against 2 poor sides and didnt have much to do. Yes give him credit for his saves but doesnt mean he is a good keeper. He just causes panic, cant command his box, shit at kicking the ball, and just does not inspire confidence to his defenders. I just hope emis back on sunday otherwise its going to be a bloodbath He can't win. So if he plays Sunday and we manage to get something, it will be interesting how you sum up his performance, because Liverpool are certainly no poor team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 31 minutes ago, one_ian_taylor said: Actually, I was thinking "Meatball in goal?" Same, though I was assuming it would be Cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyeddie Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, birdman said: He's a quality shot stopper who lacks command and precence in his area. I still maintain he'll improve from gametime this season. For the time being happy to have him as backup. Did well tonight. Very few keepers are able to command the penalty area. We have had very few that were anything other than good shot stoppers. David James was the best I can remember, but he had the odd howler in him. Losing Mings hasn't helped, being so dominant in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantholtgolazo Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I think it’s fair to say he had a mixed performance, made some great saves and had some other moments where he looked shaky at best. I wish we had a backup that was more consistent while understanding fully that’s not so easy to come by. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I think he did pretty well tonight, after his early mistake and the almost fumble in the 6 yard box he did ok. Still makes me nervous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, sheepyvillian said: Spot - on, it can't be easy when EMI sets such a high bar, but he has undoubtedly improved from the nervous, mistake ridden keeper we had come to expect. It amazes me how some just find it easier to criticise that give credit when its deserved, and tonight it most certainly was. Funny how people see it differently. At Burnley he played a terrible ball to Kamara when he wasn't even in open space. Then near the end he comes flying out and Rodriguez really should've headed it into empty net. The save he did make was pretty regulation as it was a header from near the edge of the box rather than close range. So that's one of our easier prem away games when we were in cruise control bar 10 minutes. I'm not sure a dead rubber european team is much to take from personally. I'm not even that anti-Olsen really as I wasn't giving him stick when he conceded three at Man. City on his debut where some felt he should've done better but it's clear our defence simply dosen't have the same confidence if he''s in goal so that could well be a problem at key point this season. Edited August 31, 2023 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) If people bother to look at every teams back up keepers the majority are no better than Olsen, several I'd argue are worse. Even top teams. Car crash Carson is at City. Just pointless constantly moaning about this. If Emery thinks he's adequate that's that Edited September 1, 2023 by Kiwivillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 did fine tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 38 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: If people bother to look at every teams back up keepers the majority are no better than Olsen, several I'd argue are worse. Even top teams. Car crash Carson is at City. Just pointless constantly moaning about this. If Emery thinks he's adequate that's that Strongly agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantholtgolazo Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 43 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: If people bother to look at every teams back up keepers the majority are no better than Olsen, several I'd argue are worse. Even top teams. Car crash Carson is at City. Just pointless constantly moaning about this. If Emery thinks he's adequate that's that yes, everyone who dares question any aspect of the competency of our backup keeper must be unfamiliar with all other reserve goal keepers otherwise they would just post “adequate match from Olsen as Emery knew it would be” after every appearance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Kiwivillan said: If people bother to look at every teams back up keepers the majority are no better than Olsen, several I'd argue are worse. Even top teams. Car crash Carson is at City. Just pointless constantly moaning about this. If Emery thinks he's adequate that's that Carson is 3rd choice at best though. 4th if Steffen doesn't go on loan again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Olsen was far better in goal tonight than I would have been 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adam2003 Posted September 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Demitri_C said: I just hope emis back on sunday otherwise its going to be a bloodbath People said this when he had to play against Spurs after the World Cup and the sentiment on here was it was a disgrace we were resting Emi, Lloris was showing a keeper from the WC final could/should be starting, etc. Olsen did fine. We won. Lloris, then a top name, screwed up and has never recovered, dropped by Spurs etc. I don’t rate the lad and I wish we had a better backup but let’s steer clear of hyperbole. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 4 hours ago, VillaChris said: Funny how people see it differently. At Burnley he played a terrible ball to Kamara when he wasn't even in open space. Then near the end he comes flying out and Rodriguez really should've headed it into empty net. The save he did make was pretty regulation as it was a header from near the edge of the box rather than close range. So that's one of our easier prem away games when we were in cruise control bar 10 minutes. I'm not sure a dead rubber european team is much to take from personally. I'm not even that anti-Olsen really as I wasn't giving him stick when he conceded three at Man. City on his debut where some felt he should've done better but it's clear our defence simply dosen't have the same confidence if he''s in goal so that could well be a problem at key point this season. Its amazing what you see when you’re looking for confirmation bias. I’m fairly sure that Burnley away will be a very difficult game for most teams in the league. We just played extremely well and should credit all the players (including Olsen) for that performance. The jury remains out on Olsen and I suspect for many will continue to do so. We just need to get behind him now and give him the support and confidence to continue to improve in every game he plays for us. We can then reassess in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Can be a decent shot stopper at times. But he is stuck to his line and you can just sense that the back four doesn't fully trust him. I get such Nyland vibes off of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 The problem with Olsen is that he’s indecisive. It’s like he’s saying to himself “that player is getting bigger, oh shit I need to move forward….”. He collects aimless punts by his 6 yard box instead of the edge of 18 yard box. He’s always looks like he’s on his heels. However today he made some very good stops and he’s okay as a shot stopper but he needs to be more decisive in his other actions. Reminds me of Trigger from only fools….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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