sharkyvilla Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 minute ago, sidcow said: No, not unless you are American. Aston Villa are a collective, a club, and as such they ARE delighted. I think the Aussies do it too. Very peculiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted January 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2022 Is this replacement for Tuanzebe? Big ask for a kid to fill the void Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, sidcow said: No, not unless you are American. Aston Villa are a collective, a club, and as such they ARE delighted. It can be either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2022 Just now, est1874 said: It can be either. Maybe technically but the custom in the UK is are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, sidcow said: Maybe technically but the custom in the UK is are. Are you sure? Isn't it both in the UK but primarily "is" in the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Are you sure? Isn't it both in the UK but primarily "is" in the US? I'm not arguing this anymore. I think @mjmooney needs to make an adjudication and I will abide by that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: I'm not arguing this anymore. I think @mjmooney needs to make an adjudication and I will abide by that. Well according to the British Council: 3. Verb forms with collective nouns In British English, a singular or plural verb can be used with a noun that refers to a group of people or things (a collective noun). We use a plural verb when we think of the group as individuals or a singular verb when we think of the group as a single unit. In American English, a singular verb is used with collective nouns. ** Note that police is always followed by a plural verb. British English American English My family is/are visiting from Pakistan. My team is/are winning the match. The crew is/are on the way to the airport. BUT:The police are investigating the crime. My family is visiting from Pakistan. My team is winning the match. The crew is on the way to the airport. BUT:The police are investigating the crime. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Here for the grammar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moustache of Teale Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Well according to the British Council: 3. Verb forms with collective nouns In British English, a singular or plural verb can be used with a noun that refers to a group of people or things (a collective noun). We use a plural verb when we think of the group as individuals or a singular verb when we think of the group as a single unit. In American English, a singular verb is used with collective nouns. ** Note that police is always followed by a plural verb. British English American English My family is/are visiting from Pakistan. My team is/are winning the match. The crew is/are on the way to the airport. BUT:The police are investigating the crime. My family is visiting from Pakistan. My team is winning the match. The crew is on the way to the airport. BUT:The police are investigating the crime. Would the final example above differ in American English if the 1980s band fronted by Sting was investigating the crime scene? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) Unless of course yam a Yam Yam. In which case it’s am, eh it? Edited January 14, 2022 by DaveAV1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 19 hours ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Well according to the British Council: 3. Verb forms with collective nouns In British English, a singular or plural verb can be used with a noun that refers to a group of people or things (a collective noun). We use a plural verb when we think of the group as individuals or a singular verb when we think of the group as a single unit. In American English, a singular verb is used with collective nouns. ** Note that police is always followed by a plural verb. British English American English My family is/are visiting from Pakistan. My team is/are winning the match. The crew is/are on the way to the airport. BUT:The police are investigating the crime. My family is visiting from Pakistan. My team is winning the match. The crew is on the way to the airport. BUT:The police are investigating the crime. Preferably read when sober. I always thought Police is followed by enthusiastic Paparratzi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) Hopefully he can feature tomorrow somehow. With Konsa missing I think he’ll be on the bench. Couple of minutes if we’re winning won’t harm at all. Edited January 21, 2022 by abdulaziz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 21, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 14/01/2022 at 18:50, sidcow said: I'm not arguing this anymore. I think @mjmooney needs to make an adjudication and I will abide by that. I think I've made my feelings on this matter well known. What are we going to be saying tomorrow afternoon? "Aston Villa has beaten Everton"? Or "Aston Villa have beaten Everton"? I rest my case. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, abdulaziz1 said: Hopefully he can feature tomorrow somehow. With Konsa missing I think he’ll be on the bench. Couple of minutes if we’re winning won’t harm at all. Feeney is in training so he should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 42 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I think I've made my feelings on this matter well known. What are we going to be saying tomorrow afternoon? "Aston Villa has beaten Everton"? Or "Aston Villa have beaten Everton"? I rest my case. ‘Have’. No idea what you’re talking about, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 21, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: I think I've made my feelings on this matter well known. What are we going to be saying tomorrow afternoon? "Aston Villa has beaten Everton"? Or "Aston Villa have beaten Everton"? I rest my case. I did look back at previous press releases by the club and they have gone both ways on this in the past. I wonder if they've got an American on the staff and it depends on who drafts the release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I reckon this lad will be 3rd/4th choice next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moustache of Teale Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: I did look back at previous press releases by the club and they have gone both ways on this in the past. I wonder if they've got an American on the staff and it depends on who drafts the release. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I reckon this lad will be 3rd/4th choice next season. Based on guessing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 7 hours ago, messi11 said: Based on guessing? Yes, I feel it in my bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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