CVByrne Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, TRO said: I think all managers want their midfielders to be able to all the tasks and its only the very best that come close. We have to be reasonable here in our expectation....but equally certain tasks have to be done.....either they can all do it ( Whatever it is) or you need a specialist.....or in some cases, none can do it. We have a midfield, who have questionable dead ball kickers, never mind tacklers.......We need some specialist tasks in there. Sure its early days under SG and so many things to focus on, but we do need some dedicated weapons like JWP has in his armoury.....maybe Phil or Luca can cause chaos with there free kicks. But whether we sign a designated ball winner or the existing players adapt the skill.....someone has to do it. I think is some quarters there is an obsession, with the call for a CDM.....and all is being asked is....to stop the opposition scoring at random and defending the centre backs and goal, better than we are. some can clearly see the merit in it.....some have difficulty. I think Coutinho, Digne and Bailey are the dead ball specialists we have. Seems Ccoutinho scored about 7 or 8 at Liverpool (based on a youtube compilation). Bailey scored 2 direct free kicks last season. While Digne has a great delivery. In relation to the DM, the issue is how many times we get caught in transition. The top class DMs are always aware of where danger is because they are thinking about the current play breaking down when the rest of the team are thinking about progressing. Take United's 2nd goal on Saturday, yes Sanson played a bad pass but Luiz was passive, ball watching and let Bruno just wander in unopposed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, CVByrne said: I think Coutinho, Digne and Bailey are the dead ball specialists we have. Seems Ccoutinho scored about 7 or 8 at Liverpool (based on a youtube compilation). Bailey scored 2 direct free kicks last season. While Digne has a great delivery. In relation to the DM, the issue is how many times we get caught in transition. The top class DMs are always aware of where danger is because they are thinking about the current play breaking down when the rest of the team are thinking about progressing. Take United's 2nd goal on Saturday, yes Sanson played a bad pass but Luiz was passive, ball watching and let Bruno just wander in unopposed. I couldn't agree with you more. I too think Luiz and Mings could have done better,in challenging Fred whilst Sanson will get the lazy eye vote as the culprit.....Sanson was at fault, not saying he wasn't, but a few more were laboured in a challenge too. Luiz should have gone with Fernandes, when he made his run. It needs to be better, we are gifting goal opportunities....4 wins in 14 games, is a concern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Yeah that's the thing, one mistake was followed by more which lead to a soft goal. What we are the best in the League at doing is giving away soft goals. Teams like Brentford scoring 2 goals from their 3 attacks in a game we dominated. Nakamba had that energy and bite that we have missed since his injury. IF we get that bite with some more skills like range of passing, ability to carry the ball forward etc.. (like Bissouma possesses) we'll likely be much better at cutting out these soft goals. Given our attack is improving a lot we could be a seriously good team for the remained of the season if we got that player in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted January 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, CVByrne said: The top class DMs are always aware of where danger is because they are thinking about the current play breaking down when the rest of the team are thinking about progressing. Take United's 2nd goal on Saturday, yes Sanson played a bad pass but Luiz was passive, ball watching and let Bruno just wander in unopposed. If we sign him my guess is Luiz will be benched. His contract situation doesn't help matters, we have to plan for life without him, the £20m we will get should help offset some of the rumoured £50m fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, TRO said: I couldn't agree with you more. I too think Luiz and Mings could have done better,in challenging Fred whilst Sanson will get the lazy eye vote as the culprit.....Sanson was at fault, not saying he wasn't, but a few more were laboured in a challenge too. Luiz should have gone with Fernandes, when he made his run. It needs to be better, we are gifting goal opportunities....4 wins in 14 games, is a concern. If I was Mings I would have cleaned Fred out… however I think it wouldn’t be beyond belief that the ref then gave a red card and we are one down with ten men. So I suppose no point worrying. Agreed though, no goal is down to one individual - as Gerrard said even the one Martinez spilled was because we had as a team let them pin us back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Not to labour the point on Luiz, but if you go back and watch their 2nd goal. Pause when Sanson gives the poor pass back, look where Luiz is and Fernandes is. Hit play and watch how Luiz doesn't look left at all to see how is behind him. He doesn't sprint back while Fernandes does and he doesn't check who's there. He's ball watching, because he's always thinking about attacking play. Slow to react and stop the goal. Luiz is talented but he's not the player we need in that role. Bissouma there instead of Luiz at that exact moment and United don't score, he races back he checks who's behind him and stops the pass to Fernandes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: If I was Mings I would have cleaned Fred out… That's because you are a Class A pervert. Edited January 18, 2022 by Made In Aston 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: If I was Mings I would have cleaned Fred out… however I think it wouldn’t be beyond belief that the ref then gave a red card and we are one down with ten men. So I suppose no point worrying. Agreed though, no goal is down to one individual - as Gerrard said even the one Martinez spilled was because we had as a team let them pin us back. Yeah Mings was the last man and taking him out risked a red card. He did the right thing, closed the space as quickly as he could and stood up. Luiz and Sanson were at fault for the goal. Take their first goal, we left them 2 on one with the free kick and with acres of space to play with. That's before the Martinez mistake. I feel Bissouma and McGinn out there you've got energy and fight for every ball and it will lift those around them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 According to Fabrice Hawkins who is a french journalist an un named club has had a 30 mill offer rejected by Brighton who are not interested in selling unless they receive a huge offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 If he is sold it will be late in the window and to the highest bidder. Then we need to see if he even wants to go to that club or he wants to wait until summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Not sure if this has been posted? Seems legit. Been retweeted by a few accounts with thousands of followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, MWARLEY2 said: According to Fabrice Hawkins who is a french journalist an un named club has had a 30 mill offer rejected by Brighton who are not interested in selling unless they receive a huge offer We have a knack of being " unnamed club "... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I think anything less than £50m for Bissouma, we should be all over it. If we spend that though, I imagine we’d need to get rid of a few in the Summer to really balance the books. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: I think anything less than £50m for Bissouma, we should be all over it. If we spend that though, I imagine we’d need to get rid of a few in the Summer to really balance the books. Maybe but Purslow did say in preparation for a big summer in that interview the other day. He wouldn’t say that if it was just outgoings I wouldn’t have thought. I am intrigued about balancing the books but it seems more is coming in over the next few transfer windows not just outgoings. I don’t know how they are doing it but if it makes us stronger then I’m on board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I can’t see Brighton rejecting £40m. I’m sure they would be confident in finding a suitable replacement for half that amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: Not sure if this has been posted? Seems legit. Been retweeted by a few accounts with thousands of followers. So it’s basically between us and Arsenal, with Newcastle also creating havoc on the sidelines by jacking up the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, ender4 said: So it’s basically between us and Arsenal, with Newcastle also creating havoc on the sidelines by jacking up the price. I don’t think Newcastle will create too much havoc on the price. No way Bissouma is going to go there. If it’s a straight race between us and Arsenal, you’d think he’d choose Arsenal but who knows given the Buendia situation and the fact they’re looking to spend a lot of money on a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: I can’t see Brighton rejecting £40m. I’m sure they would be confident in finding a suitable replacement for half that amount. £40m rising to £45m with all the add-ons, I reckon. He probably is legitimately in that £40-50m bracket, the question is whether we’ll pay what it costs to get top players in their prime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillanousOne Posted January 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2022 33 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: I can’t see Brighton rejecting £40m. I’m sure they would be confident in finding a suitable replacement for half that amount. i'd rather we find a suitable Bissouma replacement for half that amount. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, VillanousOne said: i'd rather we find a suitable Bissouma replacement for half that amount. Not sure I would because that suitable replacement comes with a massive amount of risk. I think it’s one role we need not to take risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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