rodders0223 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I'm out of here. You're all insane 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: He can't pass the ball??????? He's one of the best passers in the top 5 leagues. So he's one of the best passers and progressive passers in our team. Stats are stats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: He can't pass the ball??????? 77 passes at 94 % accuracy and 1 key pass yesterday renders your (usual) ott vitriolic dribble null and void. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, villa89 said: Exactly, at the end of his loan him and the manager should have been shown the door as it was obvious neither were good enough. Except Purslow then triumphantly announced him as our signing at the end of season awards, on a massive four year contract. Whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, The_Steve said: Phil isn’t some experiment, he’s a valued member of the squad who is struggling for confidence. Some of the comments about him go far beyond fair criticism of his performance yesterday. There’s a lot of problems in the squad, but Phil isn’t solely responsible for it. No agenda he is one of the weakest links in our team. People seem to think Coutinho is the one that went to Barcelona in 2018 He isnt he is finished and has probably played 4 good games since he joined. Yesterday was his 32nd appearance 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: I'm out of here. You're all insane Yeah Coutinho being in the team was a major part of the problem. He was one of the main creative forces in the team that did not create a thing. He was one of the players who was always trying to thread intricate passes through a packed centre of the pitch, which bar one instance where Sanson scored was not threatening the Stevenage goalkeeper. He was tidy, but ineffective in my opinion. The less said about his shooting the better, all bar one of his shots sailed high and wide, the one on target was staright down the goalkeepers throat. I am not sure what he offers for us as a team going forward. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Our only hope is if Gerrard somehow gets another prem job and takes him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) He could be effective if you built the team around him, specifically for him and play In his little pockets of space but that's not going to happen and he's never going to be the player he was at Liverpool so don't see it working out for him Edited January 9, 2023 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, PaulC said: He could be effective if you built the team around him, specifically for him and play In his little pockets of space but that's not going to happen and he's never going to be the player he was at Liverpool so don't see it working out for him Problem is he has never really had a team built around him before. Maybe the season before Klopp took over he was the starman but that's it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 hours ago, The_Steve said: Excellent cross and it’s a very different game if Chambers could finish Bit harsh I think, defender used his body well meaning Chambers had to get around him to make contact, it's not an easy chance because he can't strike it clean Would expect a striker to do it due to better movement but don't think it's easy for a defender If Chambers had done that defending at the other end I'd have been happy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 7 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: When does it ever 'go right' for him? The criticism he's facing is in part because yesterday is not some isolated incident. I think it last went right in uhh *checks notes* the final game of the 21/22 season, which also happened to be the last time it went right since March 2022. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 6 hours ago, CVByrne said: He's one of the best passers in the top 5 leagues. So he's one of the best passers and progressive passers in our team. Stats are stats. I wouldn’t say the stats suggest he’s one of the best passers in the top 5 leagues. They’re ok at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I think that one shot at goal yesterday Is still yet to curl..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Another player struggling at the moment. The payoff if he finds form would be great, but 1) will he? and 2) do we have the time and conditions to wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby b Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Sunday was a big chance for him to turn things around and he blew it. : < Five attempts but only one of them on target. (And two of the off target ones were "wild"). I wonder if he blew it because he was too stressed and anxious to impress in his first start under the new manager. This may have resulted in a lack of composure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eholm Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just not up to the physicallity or pace of the league anymore. His legs have gone and we are not good enough to carry any pasengers. That adrenaline-driven, new club bounce spell was clealry the exception. Never looks like beating a man, scoring or opening up a low block defence. Great player back in the day but sadly not what we need now. A very expensive mistake that I am sure we will cut our losses on in the Summer whilst supplementing his salary for the rest of his contract. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 It's quite sad seeing such a decline on a formerly great player really. Seems a nice guy but it really looks like his best days are behind him unfortunately. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eholm Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Agree mate. He clearly knows what he wants to do but his body does not facilitate it anymore. Need to quickly move him on and try to free up some wages if we can so as not to encroach too much on FFP with new signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) On 09/01/2023 at 04:30, birdman said: Yes clearly a troubled player felt a bit sorry for him when the TV pictures kept cutting to him when he was sat on the bench. I hope he gets one or two good matches before year end. It's tough to accept when your time in the big leagues has gone on. Best to secure one more big paycheck and retire to a quiet life with the family. Edited January 10, 2023 by DJBOB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Far from done here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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