Vive_La_Villa Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 2 hours ago, messi11 said: Like to see how he copes without Beale. I mean we did finish 14th with Beale. 9th with Gerrard and Beale. Let’s be fair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodders0223 Posted June 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2022 17 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: 9th with Gerrard and Beale. Let’s be fair. 6th if you count some games we lost as wins. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 I'm really worried now. Seems like Beale was the manager and Gerrard was just the face of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: 6th if you count some games we lost as wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, daggy_333 said: We finished 14th. We brought in a CL winner and a 120k left back in January. We didn't win a lot of games we should have won. This table from x date needs to stop. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 we can write next season off. Major Concerning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, messi11 said: I'm really worried now. Seems like Beale was the manager and Gerrard was just the face of it Well the public-facing stuff and transfers have been good and the on-field performances have been largely disappointing so on that basis the right one has left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Just now, Adam2003 said: Well the public-facing stuff and transfers have been good and the on-field performances have been largely disappointing so on that basis the right one has left. But Beale is a "genius" and got "so much football knowledge" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Just now, messi11 said: But Beale is a "genius" and got "so much football knowledge" That’s true about me as well and the club will do fine without me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted June 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: 6th if you count some games we lost as wins. 14th if you count some games where Steven Gerrard managed Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Gerrard is a manager. A large part of that is replacing staff. It's normal. It shouldn't be a huge deal. In still not sure how Beale is a genius like aside from some football hipsters on twitter or YT saying so who've never seen him coach a session or manage a squad. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Can't we just get another genius? We're the Villa ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 1 minute ago, rodders0223 said: Gerrard is a manager. A large part of that is replacing staff. It's normal. It shouldn't be a huge deal. In still not sure how Beale is a genius like aside from some football hipsters on twitter or YT saying so who've never seen him coach a session or manage a squad. Don’t care about them either but Gerrard also thought he was the genius, that’s the worry that he’s now gone as Gerrard said that Beale managed the sessions. It’s a big hole in our coaching set up and philosophy that has been worked on for six months with the squad, now we are getting a new coach and a new way of training. Is it going to be another transitional period while the new main coach implements his style, or will we be lucky that new ideas hit the ground running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: We finished 14th. We brought in a CL winner and a 120k left back in January. We didn't win a lot of games we should have won. This table from x date needs to stop. It's fair to take into account the whole picture. Fact is yes we finished 14th. However, it's reasonable to consider the table from when Gerrard took over. If you choose not to even consider that then that's up to you. The table from x date doesn't need to stop if people choose to take that data into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Put me in the camp that thinks it’s good leadership and encouraging that Stevie empowers his assistants to the point where the players respect their impact to the level Emi is describing. That’s a pro, not a con, to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, daggy_333 said: It's fair to take into account the whole picture. Fact is yes we finished 14th. However, it's reasonable to consider the table from when Gerrard took over. If you choose not to even consider that then that's up to you. The table from x date doesn't need to stop if people choose to take that data into account. Our form in 2022 has been poor so that needs to be taken into consideration 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 9th is no doubt better than 14th. How many points was it that separated those clubs in the middle including us in the form table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olof82Mellberg4 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Paulie said: Put me in the camp that thinks it’s good leadership and encouraging that Stevie empowers his assistants to the point where the players respect their impact to the level Emi is describing. That’s a pro, not a con, to me. No offence, but that's bollocks. This is an inexperienced manager who is over reliant on someone, to the point where Beale sounds like the manager and Gerrard merely sounds like a figurehead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted June 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, sne said: 9th is no doubt better than 14th. How many points was it that separated those clubs in the middle including us in the form table? Over 27 games - 7th Man Utd 41 points 8th Leicester 37 points 9th Villa 35 points 10th Wolves 35 points 11th Brighton 34 points 12th Brentford 34 points 13th Palace 33 points 14th West Ham 33 points 15th Burnley 27 points It was somewhat of a cluster between 8th and 14th. Edited June 1, 2022 by Mark Albrighton 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Mark Albrighton said: Over 27 games - 8th Leicester 37 points 9th Villa 35 points 10th Wolves 35 points 11th Brighton 34 points 12th Brentford 34 points 13th Palace 33 points 14th West Ham 33 points It was somewhat of a cluster. And a somewhat reversal in form from the first 11 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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