villa89 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 What evidence do they have that they think he can turn this car crash around? He's shown absolutely nothing since he took the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 8 hours ago, ozvilla28 said: I think his created a toxic dressing room with issues preseason and the handling of certain players and team pity our owners haven't woken up. The way he handled the Mings situation has upset a lot (I think) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphouneso Posted October 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2022 13 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I think it's important that what we learn from this is that the manager should be a part of an ongoing plan, not someone who brings their own plan to the table and can dominate the club. We need to get back to the underlying principles of development, buying young and selling at value, developing youth, playing a certain way, all of those things - the manager should be required to fit into those principles - of course the manager should be able to bring some of their own thoughts and ideas to the table, but those underlying principles should always come first. We need to get to a point where changing the manager doesn't change everything about the football club, where the head coach is a member of staff that works to the Villa plan. The plan should be coming from the CEO, the owners and the Director of football and a big part of the selection of the manager should be that they fit into that plan. Replacing the manager should then be a more comfortable process. I think we've indulged Steven Gerrard and as a result we've ended up having taken a step back in our development, not just in terms of results this season, but in terms of the development of our squad, our youth set up, the relationship between fans and club and the way in which everything fits together. Our next manager has to be, for want of a better description, less 'important' than Steven Gerrard, and our next Director of football needs to be someone with not just a very clear vision but the courage to put themselves and their job on the line if that vision in threatened. A little OT but this for me is why I think Purslow either needs to go with Gerrard or be confined to non-footballing matters. He's shown he's prepared to completely tear up the long term plan to accommodate someone largely unproven, I don't think we can expect him to suddenly grow some conviction if/when we get an actual football manager in. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 51 minutes ago, Dodgyknees said: The way he handled the Mings situation has upset a lot (I think) As I have read elsewhere Gerrard has picked a lot of hills to die on. The fullbacks, Mings, McGinn being captain and undropable, signing Coutinho and not playing Buendia often. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duke313 Posted October 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2022 58 minutes ago, villa89 said: What evidence do they have that they think he can turn this car crash around? He's shown absolutely nothing since he took the job. That night in Istanbul. 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Even if we drew or won on Sunday, I really can’t see him turning this overall mess around. He’s already shown that he can obtain the odd result/performance from somewhere, probably by fluke, but we’ll never have that consistency under him. That is the alarming fact in all this. In twelve months there is simply no improvement and quite honestly, we’ve probably regressed somewhat. Confidence in the squad is shot, age of the squad has gone up, salaries have gone up and with a very bloated backroom team, expensive to remove. I really can’t fathom why there is a delay in getting rid of Gerrard but I suppose it’s very complicated and going to be very costly to the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 12 hours ago, Keener window-cleaner said: The lack of rumours of him being on the brink is worrying. Extremely!!! Worrying And @Vive_La_Villa fear is nothing may be brewing and the owners are not phased by the current performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, RicRic said: Extremely!!! Worrying And @Vive_La_Villa fear is nothing may be brewing and the owners are not phased by the current performances How can you be super successful in business, own a football club, but then think actually yea current performances and results are exactly what I want for the amount of money put into the team. Makes no sense. They must be annoyed. Like the fans that pay to see the current crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Delphouneso said: A little OT but this for me is why I think Purslow either needs to go with Gerrard or be confined to non-footballing matters. He's shown he's prepared to completely tear up the long term plan to accommodate someone largely unproven, I don't think we can expect him to suddenly grow some conviction if/when we get an actual football manager in. 100% agree. Purslow should not be getting involved in football matters, that is what Lange is employed for. It does however seem that Purslow does stick his nose in on these things, and that is a concern as that is not his strength and it hampers the job Lange is supposed to do. Purslow's role should be no more than to rubber stamp Gerrard and Lange's decision for football matters like recruitment etc. Edited October 13, 2022 by NeilS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, RicRic said: Extremely!!! Worrying And @Vive_La_Villa fear is nothing may be brewing and the owners are not phased by the current performances Or they just can't nail down a proper replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Dodgyknees said: The way he handled the Mings situation has upset a lot (I think) I think it started before that. I think Targett was a popular player and was pretty much forced out. My theory is might be wrong but timelines add up but I think Mings said something about that and not so long after Gerrard kept saying he would review the captaincy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, Tayls said: How can you be super successful in business, own a football club, but then think actually yea current performances and results are exactly what I want for the amount of money put into the team. Makes no sense. They must be annoyed. Like the fans that pay to see the current crap. Super successful business people back themselves to hire the right people (Purslow), then trust their board members / execs to do the right thing with the staff underneath them. They won't sack Gerrard, they also had next to nothing to do with the hiring of Gerrard. It's all on Purslow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted October 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) They can't decide between Poch and Tuchel so they are letting Slippy run the show til they sort it out.... This is the only logical explanation! Edited October 13, 2022 by Villan_of_oz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digavilla Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Delphouneso said: A little OT but this for me is why I think Purslow either needs to go with Gerrard or be confined to non-footballing matters. He's shown he's prepared to completely tear up the long term plan to accommodate someone largely unproven, I don't think we can expect him to suddenly grow some conviction if/when we get an actual football manager in. I have some hope Purslow will do the necessary & sacked Gerrard , Mate or no mate. Correct me me if I am wrong I remember reading Purslow is a minority share holder in Villa, he would need to defend his own interest it’s no good if we get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2022 I can't believe he's still in with a job. We're in a right pickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Regarding the lack of rumours let's not forget Villa, for whatever reason, are now incredibly good at keeping things quiet. Many of our signings seemingly came out of nowhere and I'm hoping the same thing will happen with Gerrard's replacement. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Levels of relief when he finally gets the sack will be unrivalled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Villan_of_oz said: They can't decide between Poch and Tuchel so they are letting Slippy run the show til they sort it out.... This is the only logical explanation! God i wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 I think the fact that 80% of the Villa faithful would happily see us smashed on Sunday just to get rid of him says a lot. He has to go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Zatman said: I think it started before that. I think Targett was a popular player and was pretty much forced out. My theory is might be wrong but timelines add up but I think Mings said something about that and not so long after Gerrard kept saying he would review the captaincy I think all of that would have been forgiven if we actually won matches and were not absolutely horrendous to watch after paying over 10% more to watch this guff this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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