Villan_of_oz Posted August 30, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 hours ago, messi11 said: I'd take Tim Sherwood back with Remi Garde as his assistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Ender In The Sky Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2022 Gerrard is inexperienced we all knew this. This is his first real challenge as a manager and a crucial time for all of us.turn on him now and it could not only destroy him but turn a potentially good season into another relegation battle. Given time he’ll get it sorted. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, Ender In The Sky said: Gerrard is inexperienced we all knew this. This is his first real challenge as a manager and a crucial time for all of us.turn on him now and it could not only destroy him but turn a potentially good season into another relegation battle. Given time he’ll get it sorted. He’s shown absolutely nothing, nothing whatsoever to suggest he’ll get it sorted. If there had been some glimmer of light, or if we were playing even remotely well and losing still, I’d perhaps be willing to give him time, but we aren’t. We’re an absolute mess from the moment the team is picked to moment the final whistle is blown. The formation, tactics and substitutions are all wrong and we’re playing some of the worst football I’ve seen since we were promoted. We’re a dreadful side and his record is utterly abysmal. He has to go. The only reason he is still here is because his name is Steven Gerrard. He’s clueless as a manager. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted August 30, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: He’s shown absolutely nothing, nothing whatsoever to suggest he’ll get it sorted. If there had been some glimmer of light, or if we were playing even remotely well and losing still, I’d perhaps be willing to give him time, but we aren’t. We’re an absolute mess from the moment the team is picked to moment the final whistle is blown. The formation, tactics and substitutions are all wrong and we’re playing some of the worst football I’ve seen since we were promoted. We’re a dreadful side and his record is utterly abysmal. He has to go. The only reason he is still here is because his name is Steven Gerrard. He’s clueless as a manager. I have never been more convinced that a manager is out of his depth/a chancer/charlatan as much as Stevie G. I thought I was convinced than Sherwood was diabolical - I'm even more despondent about SG. I think the players liked TS. I know they do not like Gerrard. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Villa Gaffa said: Ever since Gerrard arrived he has talked the talk about Europe without us even showing anything close to being at that level. We are publicly setting ourselves up to fail I think he was putting out the message the club wanted to start with re Europe but he reined it in a bit during pre season. In his interviews around that time, he was mainly talking about finishing inside the top 10. I think , for all his faults, he is more realistic than CP re targets and publically announcing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: He’s shown absolutely nothing, nothing whatsoever to suggest he’ll get it sorted. If there had been some glimmer of light, or if we were playing even remotely well and losing still, I’d perhaps be willing to give him time, but we aren’t. We’re an absolute mess from the moment the team is picked to moment the final whistle is blown. The formation, tactics and substitutions are all wrong and we’re playing some of the worst football I’ve seen since we were promoted. We’re a dreadful side and his record is utterly abysmal. He has to go. The only reason he is still here is because his name is Steven Gerrard. He’s clueless as a manager. Even things like the league cup win over Bolton was depressing. I can only imagine how deflated Cameron Archer and Iroegbunam were when they found out they were not going to start that one, no trust in them at all. Here is the Brighton team that comfortably beat a league 1 opponent for comparison. \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 57 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: All the conjecture, discussion etc. is just nonsense and boring. Gerrard is going to get sacked, there is no two ways about it. It’ll either happen tomorrow, the next day or in 3 weeks time. It is going to happen, it just depends exactly when Purslow has the balls to tell his mate. = Wednesday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheVilla26 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Can you imagine being a manager of anything in any other walk of life and being this shit at your job? You'd be sacked. These media idiots backing him would be like getting your family and friends to ring up your company and claim 'He just needs time, you won't get anyone better', you'd be laughed out the door. I'm sick of of us having to settle for second best. He's failing woefully and needs replacing before our season is a write off or worse still, we are in a relegation battle with a squad totally lacking morale and fight to get out of it. My one hope, my biggest hope, is our owners are not clowns. They are hugely successful and not through luck or chance. To be in their position they've had to make brutal decisions at the expense of others and I seriously cling onto the fact they will in this instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillaParkAvenue Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: We’re an absolute mess from the moment the team is picked to moment the final whistle is blown. You're giving him far too much credit there. I'm sure we are a complete mess in the weeks between games as well. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 This might've been spoken about earlier, but I think Gerard's comments after West Ham were telling. He spoke about "not having imagination or creative spark" to unpick West Ham in the final third. Surely it's on him and his team to come up with an avenue to open up West Ham. It shouldn't be down to the "imagination" of the players to figure it out. It also doesn't help to complain about not having a "creative spark" when you've got Buendia and Bailey sitting on the bench. The man isn't a coach or a tactician. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: You're giving him far too much credit there. I'm sure we are a complete mess in the weeks between games as well. Good stuff. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 10 hours ago, TRO said: How did we know Ron Saunders skill set, before we appointed him?....or Brian Little's.....John Gregory was blown away, with his appointment, saying pinch me......He was managing Wycombe, how was he of the quality? SG was alegedly grilled for 5 hrs in his interview.....what if Nick, he is doing everything right, but its not working for reasons, we don't know.....We simply don't know, all the elements, but just putting 2 +2 together and saying it much be the manager. If we was winning right now, some of the speculative claims would be ignored.....much is being conjured up to feed the narrative of sacking him. If what is being said mainly on here( because there was renditions during the game of SG's claret and blue army) is right.....He will be replaced. The hierarchy will know, if my suspicions are unfounded, and he will get sacked.....if he is kept on, I suspect, there is more to it, than meets the eye. It will all come out in the wash. With all due respect TRO - this is a tad convoluted if you don’t mind me saying so. Its painfully there for all to see - Gerrard can’t get a tune out of a group of pretty talented individuals - I’m not suggesting we are world beaters by any stretch of the imaginations - but we are a darn sight better than the current fayre. Its got to be down to Gerrard/ Tactics/ Leadership/ Man management and so forth. We are sleepwalking a road that is taking us nowhere - in my humble opinion it’s time to draw a line with him and move towards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacketspuds Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2022 9 hours ago, Tom13 said: Does make me laugh people claiming people who want him out are just jumping on the bandwagon. Like Steven hasn't given us about a thousand reasons to want him out by now. I’m sorry but I have to disagree. I, for one, am incapable of making my own decisions so have to rely on a forum to decide for me and I’ll just go along with it. To be fair, I am only 40 so I’m hoping people understand. On an unrelated note, I’ve got a choice between Alpha-Bites and Fruit Loops for breakfast. Please help!!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Ender In The Sky said: Gerrard is inexperienced we all knew this. This is his first real challenge as a manager and a crucial time for all of us.turn on him now and it could not only destroy him but turn a potentially good season into another relegation battle. Given time he’ll get it sorted. Potentially a good season? Everything so far this season and for all of 2022 suggests that is far from the case. The way we are playing we will be in a relegation battle. Nothing to date suggests he will sort it, it actually suggests he will get worse as we seem to be regressing and more division is happening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Ender In The Sky said: Gerrard is inexperienced we all knew this. This is his first real challenge as a manager and a crucial time for all of us.turn on him now and it could not only destroy him but turn a potentially good season into another relegation battle. Given time he’ll get it sorted. If this was after 7 games in charge. Yes. But 31? And all the stuff coming out about the atmosphere at the club? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: He’s shown absolutely nothing, nothing whatsoever to suggest he’ll get it sorted. If there had been some glimmer of light, or if we were playing even remotely well and losing still, I’d perhaps be willing to give him time, but we aren’t. We’re an absolute mess from the moment the team is picked to moment the final whistle is blown. The formation, tactics and substitutions are all wrong and we’re playing some of the worst football I’ve seen since we were promoted. We’re a dreadful side and his record is utterly abysmal. He has to go. The only reason he is still here is because his name is Steven Gerrard. He’s clueless as a manager. Even worse, much of the malaise he has inflicted entirely himself! The captaincy debacle centre to that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: I’m sorry but I have to disagree. I, for one, am incapable of making my own decisions so have to rely on a forum to decide for me and I’ll just go along with it. To be fair, I am only 40 so I’m hoping people understand. On an unrelated note, I’ve got a choice between Alpha-Bites and Fruit Loops for breakfast. Please help!!! Neither eat a turkey for breakfast instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 27 minutes ago, Ghost said: This might've been spoken about earlier, but I think Gerard's comments after West Ham were telling. He spoke about "not having imagination or creative spark" to unpick West Ham in the final third. Surely it's on him and his team to come up with an avenue to open up West Ham. It shouldn't be down to the "imagination" of the players to figure it out. It also doesn't help to complain about not having a "creative spark" when you've got Buendia and Bailey sitting on the bench. The man isn't a coach or a tactician. Yeah, I have a massive problem with this. Complaining there's no creative spark..... Well if there's no creative spark why have you got two strikers on the pitch who are getting no service? Start with one and then use one of the many creative talents you leave on the bench more often than not, maybe not congest the centre of the pitch either as that just forces the opposition narrow and basically puts a wall of bodies in between the edge of the area and the goal. Crikey, this is basic stuff and I've never been involved in professional football..... I just work in the emergency services.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Off The Ball here in Ireland fairly on the ball when it comes to this whole Gerrard situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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