Dave-R Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I'm just relaxed about the new guy and who comes with him for now. I'm not so sure Gerrard will be or won't be any better than what Smith were for us. Us fans would be crazy to grow a mouth before anything as even been done by Gerrard and hype him up to much that if he fails we've just made the guy look ten times or more worse. Let's give him the chance to works his magic, give him some space to get his work right and support then when his work hopefully pays off properly for us fans to view and enjoy at its fullest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 53 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: Once again the cringe factor is off the scale. I get the new manager buzz, I really do and I'm fairly confident he could be a success, but please, people need to stop creaming themselves. A bit of " parliamentary procedure " would be nice. I think the boredom of the international break and all the hype and PR that has come with the appointment has allowed people to move very quickly through the stages of not considering him to be good enough for the job to now thinking we are lucky to have him. All without a ball being kicked. Maybe we are lucky, time will tell. We could all come crashing down to Earth with a bump if they play really badly on Saturday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 15/11/2021 at 20:33, Keener window-cleaner said: It's the hyped up Michael Beale! Are you saying opinion of him has been inflated? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 We will see against Brighton if this guy can do it without Grealish or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bose Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 33 minutes ago, villalad21 said: We will see against Brighton if this guy can do it without Grealish or not. Yeah absolutely. If we play well he’s the right choice. If we play badly then he’s the wrong manager and all is doomed. 3 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dubbs Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 33 minutes ago, villalad21 said: We will see against Brighton if this guy can do it without Grealish or not. Yes after less than a week with the players we'll be certain if he'll be a success or not. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 39 minutes ago, villalad21 said: We will see against Brighton if this guy can do it without Grealish or not. This was great wasn't it. If we lose, is Gerrard in trouble because we won't be signing anyone as good as Grealish ever again? Garbage, as per. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zhan_Zhuang Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: We will see against Brighton if this guy can do it without Grealish or not. Gerrard might have two days training with the international players, if he's lucky. Time and perspective, please. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 6 hours ago, WallisFrizz said: We could all come crashing down to Earth with a bump if they play really badly on Saturday. That's my point. We need some perspective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 9 hours ago, SirSteveUK said: Tad unfair to the team that finished 6th for x years in a row in the 2000's The rot set in after the 2000 cup final. We lost to Chelsea and the gap between us and the top teams has never narrowed. True we had 3 good years under MON but the money we spent was not sustainable and we have done nothing since. Between 90 and 00 we came 2nd twice, a 4th and a 5th, 2 league cup wins and 1 fa cup final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Gerrard might have two days training with the international players, if he's lucky. Time and perspective, please. I wouldn't waste your time there, Zhan. Anyone who actually knows anything about the game will agree with you. In any case, the first few games of a manager aren't really indicative of anything - success can be attributed to the 'dead cat bounce', whereas failure can just be because things haven't settled yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Realistically he can’t be judged until he’s had at least 2 pre seasons. The quickest aspect he can change is the mindset of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: We will see against Brighton if this guy can do it without Grealish or not. You still haven't realised ? That man is just a cliche now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I agree that we can't judge SG based on the first game regardless of the result. But we should be able to get a little direction of what SG is trying to do from the team selection and how we try to play. I expect and hope that we will notice something different from previous games. The positions Buendia, Ings and Watkins take up will be telling and also how he sets up the midfield. It will be surprising if we don't start 4-3-3 with our 'regular' back 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Realistically he can’t be judged until he’s had at least 2 pre seasons. The quickest aspect he can change is the mindset of players. We would be into the 23/24 season by then. We will be able to judge SG very well by the end of this season. Then after a proper transfer window and a preseason we will know what SG is about this time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 49 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: This was great wasn't it. If we lose, is Gerrard in trouble because we won't be signing anyone as good as Grealish ever again? Garbage, as per. Yeah just a really odd comment, especially considering Gerrard has never managed Grealish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 15/11/2021 at 19:01, Zatman said: Because people expected a proven winner and Gerrard is not that, one trophy in 9 at Old Firm is poor form. Its not Gerrard fault but people were expecting a proven quality successor to Smith One trophy in nine does not tell the story though does it? He has come to Rangers when they are a million miles behind Celtic and not only caught them up but gone past them. In doing so, he has cut the number of goals conceded from 50+ to 13 I believe. He has also been competitive in the Europa League. I do accept that he is not a Klopp or Tuchel, but there are very few managers around like that who guarantee success. People rave about Pep but he has always had the best side - from a Barca with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets etc. (I think is could win a CL with those players), to a strong Bayern, to the already strong Citeh with £'ms to spend, so I'm not sure even he would bring guaranteed success to the Villa? Personally I wanted Potter because I like him, he plays good football and he is from the area - but that is also why I wanted Deano and that didn't end up working out so well when his weaknesses became apparent. Gerard is a born winner and will command instant respect/set standards. He clearly knows how to organise a team and has a playing philosophy that should suit/play to our strengths. As for his links to Plop, any manager that does well with Villa/can take us to the next level would get linked to a big 6 club or a European giant and money/ambition talks (as we have seen with Jack - although his move appears to be driven by a desire for Manc totty!), But Gerard would probably only leave for Plop and that requires them having a gap so maybe even more secure than most? I for one am excited about his appointment! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 So wheres this bloody press conference damn it! On a serious note looking forward to it at 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 31 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: So wheres this bloody press conference damn it! On a serious note looking forward to it at 11. 11am according to AVTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Just now, Peter Griffin said: 11am according to AVTV Sorry, just saw your serious note. Need a bigger screen on my phone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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