robby b Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Absolutely flying under Benitez. They are joint top. Yes but since we've been back where we belong our record against them is won 2, drawn 2, lost 0. Ha ! (This after a terrible run of five defeats from six when we were in the PL previously). So these last 4 results should give us a bit of a psychological boost and maybe make them a little bit wary of us ('Oh no, it's that flippin' Villa again', in a Scouse accent). Edited September 13, 2021 by robby b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: Absolutely flying under Benitez. They are joint top. After 4 games. Against Brighton, Burnley, Southampton and Leeds. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, grobs said: We are in trouble against these We've matched up well against them since we came up though. Their backline couldn't handle Ollie at all at Goodison back end of last season and I'd personally start Bailey aswell. Think Ings scored a few v them for Southampton so think we'll go back to 4-3-3 for this. Would be great one to win to settle everyone down and give us chance to kick on a bit. Think we'll do it 2-1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Could really do with the win seeing as its a side we’re looking to catch. They’d go 9 clear of us with a win and we go to Mould Trafford next. No idea how we’ll set up, probably back to 4-3-3 with maybe Ings dropping to the bench. Please win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 7 hours ago, Mantis said: After 4 games. Against Brighton, Burnley, Southampton and Leeds. Yeah and we got 1 point out of Watford and Brentford. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 10 hours ago, villalad21 said: Absolutely flying under Benitez. They are joint top. Decent start for them but the only top half team (from last season) that they have played so far is Leeds and that was a draw and they are also now without DCL. This is definitely a winnable game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: Yeah and we got 1 point out of Watford and Brentford. What's your point? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Mantis said: What's your point? Point is there are no easy games in this league. Perhaps from maybe Norwich and Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Everton have had a good start but they can't not lose forever and we can beat them now we are getting close to a fully fit squad. We also tend to do well against them. The Brentford and Watford results were not acceptable but we were not at full strength and this weekend, other than Davis and Trezeguet (who are way down the pecking order anyway), we may actually have a fully fit squad to choose from. The major thing Smith has to get right is picking the right team. He will have to revert back to four at the back for this one and start using Bailey from the start. I also think it would be wise to have Ings on the bench and Watkins up front on his own - though I am not sure Smith has the balls to do this. For me we would be something like this: Martinez Cash Konsa Mings Targett McGinn Luiz Ramsey Buendia Watkins Bailey Subs: Steer, Tuanzebe, Hause, Young, Nakamba, Sanson, El Ghazi, Traore, Ings Enough about that side to win this game IMO. Need to take our chances better than we did against Chelsea but I fancy Bailey and Watkins to get off the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 5 hours ago, villalad21 said: Yeah and we got 1 point out of Watford and Brentford. We have but without Bailey and Watkins for both (largely) and SJM, Ramsey and Mings v Brentford. Rip the heart out of any team and they will struggle?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Looked terrible for the first 30 minutes vs Burnley. Would like to think we have more about us than Burnley, and at home after a performance like we've just had I expect a win, despite their good start and position. Benitez is a canny manager, he knows how to set up a solid side. I think Everton got a bit lucky with their goals yesterday but were worthy winners. But I have to say that we should have too much for them though, we are no longer "stop Jack and stop the attack", if we play Buendia, Watkins, Ings and Bailey, which I expect to do so, we should have too much quality. Villa 2 - 0 Everton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) Rafa gets his teams well drilled and organised. This game will be won in the middle. If Rafa goes 3 4 3 again we should play the same formation as against Chelsea. If they go back to a 4 at the back we will probably be better served with a 4 3 3 too. 2 - 1 Villa if we take our chances. Mings will score for us. Edited September 14, 2021 by Sulberto21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 14, 2021 Moderator Share Posted September 14, 2021 Everton's position flatters them. I think this is an evenly matched game, and with important players returning from injury we have looked much better. Potentially add in Buendia and Martinez and we should have plenty in the tank to win this one. If we play the way we played against Chelsea (with a better backpass from Mings) then we win. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted September 14, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2021 45 minutes ago, BOF said: Everton's position flatters them. I think this is an evenly matched game, and with important players returning from injury we have looked much better. Potentially add in Buendia and Martinez and we should have plenty in the tank to win this one. If we play the way we played against Chelsea (with a better backpass from Mings) then we win. Yeah that's about the size of it, I'd expect them to score looking at the second half last night. We'll press high and they are really good on the counter. I think we might score more than them though, if we score first we might get 3 or 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I think the owners are looking for a return on their huge investment. You look at Rafa at Everton for example. Inherited a mediocre squad, signed a few players on freebies and already sitting 4th in the table. Dean Smith has had 3 seasons.. 100's of millions to spend and has to get a European place sealed this season. Deano does need to start cracking the whip before the owners do. Look who Everton have played so far this season Beat Southampton at home Drew to Leeds on the road Beat Brighton away Beat Burnley at home They've only played bottom half teams and have not had the same injury, fitness, COVID problems we've had. Just looking at the table after 4 games won't tell you the full story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, romavillan said: Yeah that's about the size of it, I'd expect them to score looking at the second half last night. We'll press high and they are really good on the counter. I think we might score more than them though, if we score first we might get 3 or 4. 1-0 will be fine. what gives an opponent a lift, is goals.....we need a clean sheet. Edited September 14, 2021 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted September 14, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, TRO said: 1-0 will be fine. what gives an opponent a lift, is goals.....we need a clean sheet. Clean sheet would be awesome but we like to push the fullbacks up and press high, they're set up to exploit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, KMitch said: Look who Everton have played so far this season Beat Southampton at home Drew to Leeds on the road Beat Brighton away Beat Burnley at home They've only played bottom half teams and have not had the same injury, fitness, COVID problems we've had. Just looking at the table after 4 games won't tell you the full story. Let's hope we get the same results or better against those same teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rightdm00 said: Everton's wage bill is 50% larger than ours. They have outspent us last 5 seasons by some £30 million. Finished above us every year since our promotion yet they have the mediocre squad? What does that make ours then? Just compare the squad ages. Everton have the 6th oldest per transfermarket. Villa have the 4th youngest. I believe the owners know we are building something after a decade of mismanagement. Hopefully they are a but more rational than some on here. Not so much the squad - more about the manager that's getting a tune out of that squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rightdm00 said: Everton's wage bill is 50% larger than ours. They have outspent us last 5 seasons by some £30 million. Finished above us every year since our promotion yet they have the mediocre squad? What does that make ours then? Just compare the squad ages. Everton have the 6th oldest per transfermarket. Villa have the 4th youngest. I believe the owners know we are building something after a decade of mismanagement. Hopefully they are a but more rational than some on here. Everton I think spent something ridiculous nearly 300 million on wages in the last 4 seasons. Got nothing out of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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