beasley14 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 3 hours ago, viivvaa66 said: It’s 10 years. The 36 teams in the groups stage will be ranked based on the coefficient over the last 10 years. Next year the top ranked team get 36 shares of the historical ranked bonus, second team get 35 shares, and so on, and the last ranked team get 1 share. A share for next season is estimated to be worth around £250,000. Aston Villa is currently ranked as the 81st club by UEFA, so don’t expect much of this bonus. To get a decent return we need to win a lot of group matches and progress deep into the knockout stage. Hang on, does this mean that the CL isn't worth the same amount of money for a team like Villa as we won't get an equal piece of the pie. Might mean the CL isn't the golden ticket it used to be?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 17 minutes ago, beasley14 said: Hang on, does this mean that the CL isn't worth the same amount of money for a team like Villa as we won't get an equal piece of the pie. Might mean the CL isn't the golden ticket it used to be?! Europa League is the same. There is a big chunk of money that gets given out to teams based on their past 10 years coefficient. Just another way for the biggest clubs to take more than the rest. Ultimately PSR Amos over a 3 year period and CL is just one season. Even more than that we have squad cost rules which we can't just assume we'll be in CL every season. The main benefit is it allows us increase the club profile and get sponsorships Edited April 20 by CVByrne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasley14 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 If that is true it's a joke, keeping the money between the teams that already have the advantage. How is the footballing competition meant to be upheld of this is the case. Massive uphill battle to break into this long term. Do matches in the CL rack up a higher coefficient than EL or is it purely based on wins etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 45 minutes ago, beasley14 said: Hang on, does this mean that the CL isn't worth the same amount of money for a team like Villa as we won't get an equal piece of the pie. Might mean the CL isn't the golden ticket it used to be?! This season the top ranked team historically gets around £32mill, next season that would be reduced to around £9mill. While performance related prize money is estimated to go from £513mill this season to £812mill next season. Just qualify group stages for CL next season will get us £15.9mill, and if we get knocked in the group stage we get an additional £0.9mill, meaning we are guaranteed £17.8mill, even if we lose every group match. As a side note, winning the FA Cup gives you £2mill. If we are really good and win all 8 group matches we will get £25.5mill + the £15.9mill. In other words we can still get some serious money from being in CL, even if we are ranked low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 19/04/2024 at 11:22, CVByrne said: We'll make about £20m for ECL this season if we make the final. Will just about cover our agent fees for this season then! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasley14 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 26 minutes ago, viivvaa66 said: This season the top ranked team historically gets around £32mill, next season that would be reduced to around £9mill. While performance related prize money is estimated to go from £513mill this season to £812mill next season. Just qualify group stages for CL next season will get us £15.9mill, and if we get knocked in the group stage we get an additional £0.9mill, meaning we are guaranteed £17.8mill, even if we lose every group match. As a side note, winning the FA Cup gives you £2mill. If we are really good and win all 8 group matches we will get £25.5mill + the £15.9mill. In other words we can still get some serious money from being in CL, even if we are ranked low. Ok, not so bad if it's performance related that's fair enough. We could definitely win a few games in the CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 11 hours ago, beasley14 said: If that is true it's a joke, keeping the money between the teams that already have the advantage. How is the footballing competition meant to be upheld of this is the case. Massive uphill battle to break into this long term. Do matches in the CL rack up a higher coefficient than EL or is it purely based on wins etc? Yeah the Champions League matches have a higher weighting. Also the shit performance by the other muppets this year has absolutely tanked the premier league's overall coefficient from 21914 to 17386. That means if we were qualifying for the conference last year with this score we'd be in a way worse position, barely ranked above Beer Sheva. Going into next season we have 19 of our own points and counting, so our coefficient would be a minimum of 36,386. In comparison to our 19 points, Man City have earned 28, Arsenal 22, Liverpool 20, West Ham also 19, Brighton 16, Newcastle 8, Man U 7. So for 'new to Europe' clubs it's arguably better to qualify for the conference first and go deep as that's much better for your coefficient than getting smashed in the champs league, providing you can keep qualifying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasley14 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 54 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: Yeah the Champions League matches have a higher weighting. Also the shit performance by the other muppets this year has absolutely tanked the premier league's overall coefficient from 21914 to 17386. That means if we were qualifying for the conference last year with this score we'd be in a way worse position, barely ranked above Beer Sheva. Going into next season we have 19 of our own points and counting, so our coefficient would be a minimum of 36,386. In comparison to our 19 points, Man City have earned 28, Arsenal 22, Liverpool 20, West Ham also 19, Brighton 16, Newcastle 8, Man U 7. So for 'new to Europe' clubs it's arguably better to qualify for the conference first and go deep as that's much better for your coefficient than getting smashed in the champs league, providing you can keep qualifying Thanks, thats what I was thinking. Beside the revenue of the CL the Europa would potentially allow us to do this too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 hours ago, VillaJ100 said: Yeah the Champions League matches have a higher weighting. Also the shit performance by the other muppets this year has absolutely tanked the premier league's overall coefficient from 21914 to 17386. That means if we were qualifying for the conference last year with this score we'd be in a way worse position, barely ranked above Beer Sheva. Going into next season we have 19 of our own points and counting, so our coefficient would be a minimum of 36,386. In comparison to our 19 points, Man City have earned 28, Arsenal 22, Liverpool 20, West Ham also 19, Brighton 16, Newcastle 8, Man U 7. So for 'new to Europe' clubs it's arguably better to qualify for the conference first and go deep as that's much better for your coefficient than getting smashed in the champs league, providing you can keep qualifying Though the rankings look at your 5 year coefficient so 1 year of doing well in the Conference doesn’t help that much. Really need 3-4 years in Europe first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I thought that with the new CL format next year we would play 2 teams from pot 1, 2 from pot 2, 2 from 3, 2 from 4 It's 1 game from each pot at home and 1 away So us being in pot 4 or pot 1 makes no difference to us, it's balanced 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: I thought that with the new CL format next year we would play 2 teams from pot 1, 2 from pot 2, 2 from 3, 2 from 4 It's 1 game from each pot at home and 1 away So us being in pot 4 or pot 1 makes no difference to us, it's balanced If we end up in pot 4, it would make a difference to the teams that are drawn against us, since they get a stronger opponent than what would have been expected from pot 4. It is likely that there will be teams that are in the “wrong” pot, like this season Feyenoord was in pot 1 and Newcastle was in pot 4. The group stage draw will play a role in the chances to progress into the knockout stage, but being drawn against 8 teams, it should even out somewhat. Again what pot we are in, would not make a difference to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) Everywhere I went today in and around Villa Park, I spoke to and noticed fans visiting Villa Park for their first time. Nice to see new fans here, no idea how they all managed to get tickets though lol. The club shop was packed, and the new caterers were present in the Upper Trinity selling the chicken tikka and chips for £12.50. Edited April 21 by ender4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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villa4europe Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 long term partnership....2 years then... id guess theres potential for them to become our official gambling partner when the ban kicks in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 JT saying it's 40 mil over the 2 years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 14 minutes ago, useless said: This Betano logo is better than the one that was getting used in the mock ups. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Sigh. Another shit move. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Looks like the deal may have only gone ahead if we got CL football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Quote Aston Villa and Betano Announce Principal Partnership Betano joins Aston Villa on path to glory with front-of-shirt sponsorship deal Aston Villa and Kaizen Gaming, the leading global GameTech operator, are delighted to announce a new long-term partnership that will see Betano, Kaizen Gaming’s premium brand, become the Club’s new principal and front-of-shirt partner. Hot on the heels of Betano’s UK market debut in partnership with BVGroup, the two-year agreement will see the Betano logo feature on the front of Aston Villa’s men team’s jerseys starting from the 2024-25 season. This new partnership comes just a few weeks after Betano’s sponsorship announcements of the UEFA EURO 2024™ and CONMEBOL Copa America 2024. Chris Heck, President of Business Operations, Aston Villa said: “We are delighted to welcome Betano as Aston Villa’s new principal partner. Their dedication to innovation, customer satisfaction and responsible gaming aligns perfectly with the values we hold dear as a club. Aston Villa and Betano share a commitment to excellence, and we look forward to achieving great success together on and off the pitch. This collaboration marks an exciting chapter for both our organisations”. https://kaizengaming.com/aston-villa-and-betano-announce-principal-partnership/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 17 minutes ago, sne said: aligns perfectly with the values we hold dear as a club A gambling company has values that align perfectly with us apparently... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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