Dave-R Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 41 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Look at how long it took the German guys at Chelsea to adapt. Sancho not exactly ripping it up so far. People are hyping this guy up way too quickly. He will come good but it will probably take some time. People see an excellent player in him because that's what he will be. Usually when players come abroad most don't even show glimpses in there first games but Bailey did and he also showed a bit of himself against Chelsea who are a team very tough to play against. Bailey even showed in his first game he has the a ability to change a game. Surely you have been paying attention to him, he won't just come good he will be past good down the line. By rights we shouldn't of even got out hands on Bailey,the usually lot above us cocked it up not signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Dave-R said: People see an excellent player in him because that's what he will be. Usually when players come abroad most don't even show glimpses in there first games but Bailey did and he also showed a bit of himself against Chelsea who are a team very tough to play against. Bailey even showed in his first game he has the a ability to change a game. Surely you have been paying attention to him, he won't just come good he will be past good down the line. By rights we shouldn't of even got out hands on Bailey,the usually lot above us cocked it up not signing him. I never said he won't be a success. All I'm saying is it may take some time. And probably will take some time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 48 minutes ago, jimmygreaves said: Must admit I'm not expecting much from Bailey this season. I'm hoping he does well but wouldn't be surprised if he struggles for a while. He's definitely got the the tricks but I think his fitness and work ethic will need to improve. Traore took a bit of time to get used to the league. I think we'll see a similar development path with Bailey. i dont doubt he might take a little time to adjust, but on the same note, the German League is probably the closest of the world leagues to the tempo/style of play of the PL, its not quite like Sanson/Traore etc coming from the French or other leagues, where there is a large difference in tempo etc. But ye, i dont doubt he will need some time to get up to speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted September 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: Look at how long it took the German guys at Chelsea to adapt. Sancho not exactly ripping it up so far. People are hyping this guy up way too quickly. He will come good but it will probably take some time. yep struggled massively in the first season 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Zatman said: yep struggled massively in the first season It took them over half a season to get going. Looked inept under Lampard. And Werner still isn't even playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 So instead of jumping at provocative comments or discussing Chelsea players - where do we think Bailey best fits in if we play the formation we played yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Keener window-cleaner said: So instead of jumping at provocative comments or discussing Chelsea players - where do we think Bailey best fits in if we play the formation we played yesterday? He doesn’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 53 minutes ago, Keener window-cleaner said: So instead of jumping at provocative comments or discussing Chelsea players - where do we think Bailey best fits in if we play the formation we played yesterday? he could fit np. in a 343 he could play left or right forward, in a 3412 he could play the roaming semi CAM position behind the strikers (which he did against Chelsea, popping up here and there), or in a roaming CAM position in a 3421, as well as obviously in a 442 (winger), or 433 (left or right forward). He can fit in perfectly well wherever needed tbh, but granted, his best position on paper seems to be LW or RW (or L/R inside forward). Dont sweat it tbh, the fact we are debating where Watkins, Ings, Buendia, Bailey and Traore might fit in to the forward line, is a healthy problem to have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: And Werner still isn't even playing. Still? He played the third most mins for them in the PL last year behind their keeper and Mount. He isn't playing because they've bought a £98m striker in ahead of him. Wrong again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Keener window-cleaner said: So instead of jumping at provocative comments or discussing Chelsea players - where do we think Bailey best fits in if we play the formation we played yesterday? Tell you what I wouldn't mind sticking Watkins on the wing and see what he can do as our CF with that trickery. But an inverted winger I think would be up his alley. Edited September 12, 2021 by Dave-R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Tbf Werner is shite, I was never a fan of his even in Germany. Havertz on the other hand is a baller. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 47 minutes ago, Dave-R said: Tell you what I wouldn't mind sticking Watkins on the wing and see what he can do as our CF with that trickery. But an inverted winger I think would be up his alley. Yes, his favourite position is right wing. Only thing is Traore would be pretty useless on the left IMO as he lacks the pace to go on the outside. Traore had been tried centrally a couple of times last season, maybe that could be something to explore, with Buendia as a wide playmaker on the left. It's on Deano to get the best out of them all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomsky_11 Posted September 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 10 hours ago, MaVilla said: he could fit np. in a 343 he could play left or right forward, in a 3412 he could play the roaming semi CAM position behind the strikers (which he did against Chelsea, popping up here and there), or in a roaming CAM position in a 3421, as well as obviously in a 442 (winger), or 433 (left or right forward). He can fit in perfectly well wherever needed tbh, but granted, his best position on paper seems to be LW or RW (or L/R inside forward). Dont sweat it tbh, the fact we are debating where Watkins, Ings, Buendia, Bailey and Traore might fit in to the forward line, is a healthy problem to have. Or wide in the middle 4/5 in a 3-4-3/3-5-2, like the above man of the match performance. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 31/08/2021 at 17:12, lexicon said: I really don't think people get how much of a coup signing Bailey was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, tomsky_11 said: Or wide in the middle 4/5 in a 3-4-3/3-5-2, like the above man of the match performance. That’s interesting because I thought Targett looked lost and and a waste of a position in that formation. I’m a big fan generally but he didn’t look like a wing back to me, barely touched the ball attacking or defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, tomsky_11 said: Or wide in the middle 4/5 in a 3-4-3/3-5-2, like the above man of the match performance. 3 minutes ago, villaglint said: That’s interesting because I thought Targett looked lost and and a waste of a position in that formation. I’m a big fan generally but he didn’t look like a wing back to me, barely touched the ball attacking or defending. Im pretty sure i read somewhere that he wasnt keen on playing the left wing back/left midfield position like show above! Although im sure he would play it if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inspiration Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, villaglint said: That’s interesting because I thought Targett looked lost and and a waste of a position in that formation. I’m a big fan generally but he didn’t look like a wing back to me, barely touched the ball attacking or defending. Thought similar, I think he might be better deployed as the LCB in this system and move ty to the centre of it. Will aid us in playing the ball out from the back and he’s pretty solid defensively these days and I don’t think you lose much aerial presence choosing between him or axel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, MaVilla said: Im pretty sure i read somewhere that he wasnt keen on playing the left wing back/left midfield position like show above! Although im sure he would play it if needed. I believe he has said he prefers to play on the right and he's just had his best season in Bundesliga in terms of goals and assists where he has mostly played on the right by the looks of it. Prior to last season though he has mostly been played on the left, so playing him there really wouldn't be an issue. Certainly, if we were playing him as a wing back the left side would make more sense with him being left footed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 4 hours ago, tomsky_11 said: Or wide in the middle 4/5 in a 3-4-3/3-5-2, like the above man of the match performance. Couple of benders in there! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moustache of Teale Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Couple of benders in there! If nobody else is going to take this then I will.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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