Mic09 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Someone should let them know our games are in England, quick! Haha that's true, stupid new Euro format 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Zatman said: not sure how they have came to this but apparently from Opta I really don't know how you can put a percentage on chances of winning it, it's knock out football and unpredictable really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jimzk5 said: I really don't know how you can put a percentage on chances of winning it, it's knock out football and unpredictable really They’ve probably just converted bookie odds to a percentage of probability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 hours ago, villa4europe said: He can still drop maguire and Henderson the day before the Croatia game, that's why I think no one has been sent home yet and white, Ollie, Lingard are getting minutes This injured player thing is a bit shit at the moment because this change thing is new cos of rona, if this maguire thing is true about not being fit until the knockout stage then surely he'll be dropped, same with Henderson I thought he couldn't unless they picked up new injuries. Pre-existing injuries dont count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Genie said: They’ve probably just converted bookie odds to a percentage of probability. That dont work as England are second favourites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 51 minutes ago, PaulC said: That dont work as England are second favourites In England they arent elsewhere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Zatman said: In England they arent elsewhere Wouldn't have thought they would be that different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, PaulC said: Wouldn't have thought they would be that different. Not that much but in England for example more people will have bet on England so makes them nearly always 3rd or 4th favourites for a lot of tournaments They might still be 2nd or 3rd favourites elsewhere but probably higher odds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, PaulC said: Wouldn't have thought they would be that different. England are always favourites or close to with British bookies. They always shorten the odds because of the amount of money that has been put on them, just in case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Just now, Genie said: England are always favourites or close to with British bookies. They always shorten the odds because of the amount of money that has been put on them, just in case. Yes and this time theres a good feeling as well so bound to be more money put on them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizzzle Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 I thought to myself I know they are expensive but I'll treat myself to an England shirt with Grealish on it so I ordered it online and paid and everything only to discover I'd ordered a womens shirt! I hate my life 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, Bizzzle said: I thought to myself I know they are expensive but I'll treat myself to an England shirt with Grealish on it so I ordered it online and paid and everything only to discover I'd ordered a womens shirt! I hate my life No returns on shirts with names on??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizzzle Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, villa4europe said: No returns on shirts with names on??! Really? I hope not. I doesn't mention anything on their website that I can see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Henderson reminds me of when Wilshere got called up for Euro 2016 when he'd played about 4 games all season for Arsenal....and guess what he was s***. I'm fine with Rice holding in this tournament. Perhaps he'll get found out against a tournament favourite but he's had a good season for West Ham so not just hype imo and think he'll do a decent job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 On 04/06/2021 at 10:44, Zatman said: not sure how they have came to this but apparently from Opta Its from here https://theanalyst.com/eu/2021/06/euro-2020-predictions-france-belgium-england/ Quote Stats Perform’s Euros Prediction model estimates the probability of each match outcome (win, draw or loss) by using betting market odds and Stats Perform’s team rankings. The odds and rankings are based on historical and recent team performances. The model considers the strength of opponents and the difficulty of the “path to the final” by using the match outcome probabilities with the composition of the groups and the seedings into the knockout stages. It then simulates the remainder of the tournament 40,000 times. By analysing the outcome of each of these simulations, the model returns the likelihood of progression for each team at each stage of the tournament to create our final predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Bizzzle said: Really? I hope not. I doesn't mention anything on their website that I can see Depends, if it was a pre set then you should be OK, if you had to do via the custom set up then usually it's a no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 On 04/06/2021 at 10:44, Zatman said: not sure how they have came to this but apparently from Opta Yeah we should be lower. No chance England are getting to the final. One of the best teams of talent, (attacking wise defo) we have had in years, only to be held back by a manager who makes McLeish look like Pep! Still shocks me how he got the job, other than jobs for the boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: Yeah we should be lower. No chance England are getting to the final. One of the best teams of talent, (attacking wise defo) we have had in years, only to be held back by a manager who makes McLeish look like Pep! Still shocks me how he got the job, other than jobs for the boys. That's kind of why it's nonsense There won't be a stat or barometer for southgates dullness On paper we have the great attack, we score goals, we piss the qualifiers, we are the home team... We should be higher... I'd put us above Denmark, Holland and Germany for sure Not a clue about Italy going in to this tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 29 minutes ago, villa4europe said: That's kind of why it's nonsense There won't be a stat or barometer for southgates dullness On paper we have the great attack, we score goals, we piss the qualifiers, we are the home team... We should be higher... I'd put us above Denmark, Holland and Germany for sure Not a clue about Italy going in to this tournament Denmark took 4 points off England in the Nations League so probably taken into account Italy are going way under the radar, probably the best midfield in the tournament 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 56 minutes ago, Zatman said: Denmark took 4 points off England in the Nations League so probably taken into account Italy are going way under the radar, probably the best midfield in the tournament Well they failed to qualify for the last world cup and England got to the semis. Not sure we should be concerned about Italy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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